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Anyone else used real life buildings as map layouts?
Unfortunately, yes. What kind of buildings work well? None. Did you learn anything about the buidling by trying to build it in a game? No. Did anything funny happen while you where building the map or thinking about something vaguely related to this? No. In the beginning of Quake I once got so curious
why my own maps always got much bigger on data-account than those of ID. So I decided to take the challenge of remaking "the palce of the two deaths" e1m2 Don't ask how I made it, but I did. That's maybe a kind of "robin hood", but it explained me much about the hows and ifs of Quake mapping. Later made a splendid level, by tossing the pieces into another layout. But I can't call that stealing, as anyone see immedeatly it's Quake own "furnish". But stealing maps from others seems a lack of fantisy to me, as sur as the shambler's catch-if-catch-can. only one from real life though when I didn't know better and did awefull maps in thred.
MadFox... I think Drannerz was saying that you sounded like a rabid monkey on crack.
and that you killed Jesus. hence the endless stream of "this is a map of my school/house" releases you get at the start of any game.
compare the layout of your favourite dm maps with some common normal architecture layouts. nuff said. Nuff indeed. I kinda wrote about this on my page for my HL map Ashpit - it's the closest I ever got to 'basing my map on a real place'. The fallout shelter that was its inspiration is not like any other kind of building most of us spend our time in ( house, office, school, mall, hospital - all of which have been the basis for maps at some time or other ). The shelter was mostly subterranean, concrete and military in design - all ideal qualities for a FPS map.
However, I never tried mapping it accurately in Quake. I did try in HL, specifically for CS, and it failed utterly. The max viewdistance was an immediate hinderance because for a CS scenario to work, the players needed to be able to move around on top of the hill as well as under it. The layout, though absolutely real and totally appropriate to the HL theme, wouldn't neccessarily have made for good gameplay. It was worth trying, though, just to learn. Try the cathedral for inspiration , the new , modern bit. Kinda cool, shows how rightangled stuff can work pretty well.
scampie, i think he might be offended at the religious remark!
top mappers prolly can take good inspiration from something real but most things will be a bit boring like telling a joke you heard from a comedian. it might not work in another situation. picking bits and assembling them like a jigsaw is prolly more successful Taking ideas from real buldings doesn't really work, except for those 'realistic' games. And even they tend to look bit bland. Thats my two base currency units anyways.
The map I built using a real life layout will be released in about three weeks. Just in case anyone wanted to know.
Maybe you'll be the exception. For just about any 'rule' you could make up about mapping someone will know a good map that breaks it.
the difference might lie in what the function of the building was for. The Borchardt library at La Trobe uni would make a crap level, but when Kell makes a 'library' it rocks. Consider the nightclub as real life inspiration: nooks, several levels (either joined directly or via a "cornered & staired" corridoor), variety of large atrium like spaces and smaller chill out areas (usually with more than one access/exit point, dead ends (toilets), a consistent theme and scheme with just enough variation in design to keep the patrons interested in their down moments.
Add some guns and it sounds like a DM level to me =) the layout of my geocomp2 entry was completely copied from fbdm5 brutal force, but mirrored so ppl wouldnt recognise it (well noone did recognise it it think, mainly because only 5 ppl downloaded the map i think)... i tried to contact the author about it but got no reaction. well it was mainly because of the deadline that i needed a good layout fast that would work without playtesting. oh and i ripped the slopy concept from aardappel but he was okay with that :) what can i say... better to copy a good concept than thinking of a crappy one yourself
didnt know qmap still existed btw the layout of my geocomp2 entry was completely copied from fbdm5 brutal force, but mirrored so ppl wouldnt recognise it (well noone did recognise it it think, mainly because only 5 ppl downloaded the map i think)... i tried to contact the author about it but got no reaction. well it was mainly because of the deadline that i needed a good layout fast that would work without playtesting. oh and i ripped the slopy concept from aardappel but he was okay with that :) what can i say... better to copy a good concept than thinking of a crappy one yourself
didnt know qmap still existed btw
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