Ahhh
#4099 posted by
. on 2005/08/18 09:54:55
The joys of different gammas. Eh nevermind about it ;)
Flames Sync Revisited
#4100 posted by
aguirRe on 2005/08/18 13:59:19
I might have found the cause and fix for the synchronized flame animations. After checking in DP how it's handled there, the problem seems to be that lights are static ents and therefore aren't affected by the mdl sync flag.
I've just put in a simple hack to randomize the starting pose and it seems to work in both Win/GLQuake. Now Mike's and Chapter's torch rows look better.
Weird...
#4101 posted by
metlslime on 2005/08/18 14:34:21
since the flag is in the model data and not in the quakec, it seems that from the beginning they intended it to be handled on the client-side. So this is just one of those cases where id screwed up?
Maybe
#4102 posted by
aguirRe on 2005/08/18 15:54:49
they didn't have separate static ents from the beginning and then forgot about it. It's pretty hard to notice if the torches aren't lined up close.
RtCW Mapping Questions
#4103 posted by
Jago on 2005/08/20 15:30:15
I am sure some of you have mapped for RtCW so I have some questions to all of you:
1) I have unpacked models/mapobjects from pak0.pk3 and sp_pak1.pk3 and can now load the models inside Radiant. However, some of the dirs for the objects (mapobjects/bush, mapobjects/clipboard, mapobjects/lion to name a few) only contain textures and no model file, where are they?
2) Say I added a mapobjects/bodyparts/helbody.mdc into my map as a misc/model, how can I choose which skin is used on the model? By default, hel_body1.jpg is being used, how do I make the model use lop_body1.jpg instead?
Also
#4104 posted by
Jago on 2005/08/20 15:36:26
As of right now, my models/mapobjects dir is 27.5 mb in size, I am thinking this is too small and I am missing something?
Fcuk
#4105 posted by
inertia on 2005/08/20 17:31:02
I need this answered ASAP:
how do i make 45 degree angles on walls in which the player does NOT get stuck on the edges??
im talking something like this:
www.qwplayers.org/inertia/problem1.jpg
www.qwplayers.org/inertia/problem2.jpg
Inertia
#4107 posted by
R.P.G. on 2005/08/20 17:40:40
1) Make sure you're using aguiRre's latest QBSP.
2) If that doesn't solve the problem, merge the angled wall and its supporting right-angled walls into a single brush.
The problem occurs when QBSP grows the brushes to create the clipping hulls, and QBSP grows the angled brush incorreclty so it extends past the right-angled wall and creates an invisible wall that players get caught on. There's a command in Tyrann's engine that lets you see the clipping hulls, and there's also a command in aguiRre's QBSP that lets you view this clipping hull in normal Quake.
Hopefully this makes sense since I just had some gin and a Sam Adams.
Sorry
#4108 posted by
inertia on 2005/08/20 17:43:36
my picture was wrong in shot #1
here's a corrected version (repalced the old file):
http://www.qwplayers.org/inertia/problem1.jpg
and am using aguire's latest treeqbsp and txqbsps, each gives me these results
Inertia...
#4109 posted by
. on 2005/08/20 18:30:42
Not sure, but - is the player going to be able to go behind that wall? I mean as you have it built, you can go on the outside and the inside. If that isn't the case, why not just make a brush and clip it at 45 degree angle? Poor example but you may get the idea (# = solid)
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Inertia
#4110 posted by
Tyrann on 2005/08/20 19:13:27
I don't think this can be solved in qbsp, I think it's an engine bug. I think they had a fix in QuakeForge for a short while, but it had other side effects which made some levels unplayable. I don't understand the engine side of it fully.
Ah
#4111 posted by
inertia on 2005/08/20 20:16:52
i see that it is a rediculously complex issue! anyway i found workarounds using external clip brushes and other humdickery, but i aprpeciate all the help i got anyway.
#4112 posted by anonymous user on 2005/08/20 21:43:25
inert: clip clip it
I Just Want To Say
#4113 posted by
pushplay on 2005/08/21 00:43:50
I enjoyed inert's unhappy guy immensely.
More On RtCW
#4115 posted by
Jago on 2005/08/21 06:00:24
I have found a whole lot more map models in WolfToolsSDK.zip so this part is getting better. However, there are still many mapobject dirs that have only the model file (textures missing) or only have the texture and not the model. I am puzzled.
It Could Be A Matter Like In Quake 3
#4116 posted by
HeadThump on 2005/08/21 07:41:48
that there is one grey marble like seamless texture used to wrap around a generic 'statue' model. To save space the internal reference for the models may be to one lonesome texture you just have not spotted yet. I'm guessing since I don't have WolfToolsSDK installed, but I remember noticing that in a game pack that came with the GTKRadiant install before.
Toot
#4117 posted by
Shallow on 2005/08/21 10:00:07
I think there are a few RTCW models that don't show up correctly in the editor but do in game. I can't remember if the models' shader files are listed in shaderlist.txt by default, adding it might clear up a few missing textures if it isn't. Or it might not but trying won't hurt :)
there are still many mapobject dirs that have only the model file (textures missing)
Some models may have shaders which point to textures stored somewhere other than the model's directory. Or they might just be broken unused content that got included accidentally.
or only have the texture and not the model.
Like I said before, static mapmodels get baked into the BSP when the map is compiled and are loaded from there not the model file at runtime, thus there was no need to include all the models with the game. Alternatively, some folders might just be textures that are referenced by models in other folders.
There's a fair amount of usable custom models that have been made as well, hunt around for those. Custom models made for Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory will generally work in RTCW as well, although you may need to rewrite the shader.
1930s House Textures
#4119 posted by
. on 2005/08/21 22:49:46
Might I be missing anything? So far I've got about 8 or 9 thumbnails sketched for interior wall designs, and with variations it comes out to about 27 - for interior walls. Here's the full list though:
Interior Walls:
wallpaper, concrete, panels (wood), tile
Exterior Walls:
wood, concrete, brick
Interior Floors:
concrete, wood, tile, carpet
Materials:
wood, stone, metal, porcelain/glass (think toilets/bathtubs
Furniture:
chairs, couches, stools, file cabinet, cupboard, cabinets, dressers, bed, shelves, armoire, bookshelves, desk
Outside:
grass, earth, mud, road, sidewalk, rock-brick, sky, water, trees, foliage, stonebeds, gravel, floral
Miscellaneous:
sewer covers, typewriter, clocks, phone, stove, fridge, phonograph, lamps, lights/sconces, picture frames, broken mirros, bathtub, sink, roofs, windows, doors
Um
#4120 posted by
inertia on 2005/08/21 23:34:27
Don't you have a map in the works already? It's bad to derail your mapping progress... like reading more than one novel at the same time!
#4122 posted by Mindcrime on 2005/08/22 02:40:29
You forgot the potty!
Nope
#4123 posted by
. on 2005/08/22 02:47:57
It's on the list just under materials. I actually have it written down, but not under miscellaneous on the list here :P