In Id1 Progs
how does one force mobs to infight?
#17941 posted by Baker on 2016/12/27 19:47:15
Setting aside the possibility of an elaborate high radius, low damage explosion with the owner somehow being assigned to a specific monster and initiated with negke-like trick ...
It is not possible because monsters do not look for other monsters, they look only for player.
Maybe you could change the QuakeC, but then it isn't id1 progs.
#17942 posted by lpowell on 2016/12/27 19:47:37
Thanks, I'll check those WADs.
Finally... would Nihilism Unlimited care if I put the zer tree model into an AD map? I'm looking at the zer readme now and most of those emails look like they're dead as a doornail. Alternatively if anyone has an uo-to-date info for someone on the team....
Nihilism Unlimited.
Darin McNeil (the main Zer programmer) works at id, maybe you can ask them: http://www.idsoftware.com/en-us#section-contact
Serious Answer.
It's a pretty shoddy model from a 1997 freeware mod, you can use it.
#17945 posted by negke on 2016/12/28 00:20:07
Aren't there brush-modeled trees in some of the AD maps? If you're concerned about this, you could just copy these as the sources are included and permit re-use.
There's One In Ad_azad
#17946 posted by Mugwump on 2016/12/28 00:26:41
in the top floor section, where you fight the necromancers.
Quake1 Trees
#17947 posted by madfox on 2016/12/29 03:35:09
I just made an asset for quake trees.
Maybe there's something of your interest?
Q1Tree
Eviscerated
#17948 posted by mjb on 2016/12/29 16:23:16
Is it a thing that a fiend will cause double damage if it leap attacks you while you are in midair?
I have a section where you are swimming upwards, and a fiend has a chance to leap at you. Every time I get hit by the leap I die instantly. I even had Yellow armor at 100HP!
#17949 posted by Kinn on 2016/12/29 16:44:34
sounds like the fiend instagib bug where a fiend will kill you if it lands on your head - this has been in quake right from the start (feature lolol)
Brutal
#17950 posted by mjb on 2016/12/29 16:51:59
Ah that describes what is happening. Hmm, I basically have an insta-kill "trap" at the moment. I'll have to re-work something. Thanks Kinn!
#17951 posted by topher on 2016/12/29 16:56:22
it happened to me being gibbed by one of that leaps
you may be right, but i can't recall correctly when or how much health i had
but the player can be gibbed normally, because gib threshold for the player is -40.
acording to quakeC
damage of leap:: ldmg = 40 + 10*random();
perhaps the demon is jumping again in mid-air?
Multiple Collisions
#17952 posted by Preach on 2016/12/29 18:53:08
The fiend deals damage in every every frame to each entity that it collides with, until it is resting on the ground. In a normal sideways leap the first collision stops the fiend's horizontal movement, so it doesn't collide with you on the second frame because it's not moving towards you.
Two things go wrong when the fiend attacks from above. Firstly, landing on a player doesn't count as resting on the ground for the fiend, so the attack animation continues after it hits you. Secondly, although the first collision cancelled its vertical motion, gravity accelerates it down again next frame, so you get repeated collisions. It isn't doing any more damage than normal per collision, it's just multiple collisions that stack to create near-instant death.
In Quoth there's a crude fix to this problem - leaping monsters can only inflict damage once per leap. If you're mapping for the vanilla jam then there's no workaround other than making sure the fiend can't attack from that far above.
What A Fiend
#17953 posted by mjb on 2016/12/29 19:22:57
Thanks Preach, that about explains every facet of the fiend dilemma I could be having. I moved the fiend back a bit and his jump hasn't one-shot me in about 10 tests (Since you are now more or less horizontal with the bastard at the time.) I may leave it this way or just slap an ogre down instead.
It Does Not Resolve THE Real Question...
#17954 posted by JPL on 2016/12/29 20:20:29
.. do Fiends have eyes ?
#17955 posted by skacky on 2016/12/29 20:22:31
Yes.
#17954
#17956 posted by Kinn on 2016/12/29 20:33:30
No, but before you gib, you do have about 1/100th of a second to look up and possibly resolve the age-old question of "do fiends have willies?"
Yes
To both eyes and willits.
LOL
#17958 posted by mfx on 2016/12/29 20:52:30
Fiends Have Tim Willits?
#17959 posted by Mugwump on 2016/12/29 21:47:24
Poor guy...
There's No Love For Willits
#17960 posted by killpixel on 2016/12/30 04:58:09
not even in the doomworld forums. How much of the id old guard remains anyway? cloud, willits... is that it? I suppose stratton should be counted too.
#17961 posted by Newhouse on 2016/12/31 14:01:47
How do you remove wind ambient sound in vanilla Quake?
#17961
#17962 posted by Kinn on 2016/12/31 14:09:03
add -noambientsky to the vis command line
Thank You~
#17963 posted by Newhouse on 2016/12/31 14:38:33
How Do I Compile Maps In Trenchbroom Mac OS X
#17964 posted by Naitelveni on 2017/01/02 23:53:34
Help me! i have no clue O_o
i've been compiling maps in console with windows, and now im tired of rebooting my computer everytime i want to map.
i need a total beginners guide, step by step.
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