Quake uses standard 32 bit precision floating point values for all entity fields. That's 23 significant figures in binary - good enough for about 7 places in decimal. So yeah, not nearly enough for what you're trying to do. Also remember that your set-up will break if one of your trains gets blocked by a player for a few frames, and the other doesn't. Custents has a synchronised func_train entity which is designed for keeping multiple trains in lock-step - the example they build is an escalator.

Interesting side note: the engine does track some quantities in double precision. One of the most important is the server time. Since it's constantly having small increments added to it, there's a need for higher precision. QC of course can't access the value at the higher precision, but it still benefits from the better tracking. 

But what's Custents?

Player Blocking: Not an issue for most of my...super special stuff. I do have some timed crushers though, should these be func_doors? I haven't had time to mess with the crushers yet. 

A classic mod with a mixed bag of custom entities:
http://wartrench.telefragged.com/custents.html
Warning: 1998 web design.

The downloads page points to a dead ftp, a live mirror can be found at
http://www.quake-1.com/quakec-gallery/custents.zip 

It sounds like you're jumping through a lot of hack-hoops when a bit of qc will solve most of it.

There's also extras r4 (mentioned on another thread recently) which also has custom entity extensions. 

There's nothing wrong with jumping through hoops if you so enjoy. On the other hand, I'd say that something which is evidently hard to get right even in QC is probably not amenable to entity hacks. As opposed to yesterday's currency challenge, which is easy to do in QC and so seems ripe for a hacking challenge. 

And I do appreciate the challenge of figuring out a puzzle. But with time I've got more impatient, often preferring the direct solutions over the more complex options.

Horse for courses I suppose :) 

I just want to get it working smoothly any possible. :D It's a pain enough having to calculate distance-between-corners/train-speed to get time-travelled in order to know how much wait to give path_corner's for these trains to meet up properly. 

Are you trying to do?

From what I can gather from the posts it sounds something like these:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090406224015/half-life/en/images/8/84/Boids_Xen.jpg

Though they didn't do anything apart from go in a straight line :P 

seriously, you should check out custents, it has everything you are talking about.

you can specify a train to move so that it gets at it's destination in a specific time instead of telling it to move at a speed, and there is a setting to remove the delay when it hits a corner. 

Thanks! Looks like it might work!

ijed: shhhh! It's a surpise! No nothing as simple as alien birds. 

 

Thanks, I've been looking for that option. 

Hey guys,

I'm designing a map called "maw of madness" and as the title of the map suggests I want to give the player the feeling of being swallowed by madness.

As such I want to use the waterwarp effect in certain sections of wall. However, I don't want the wall to be traversable / swimmable. Is there a way to make completely (not semi) transparent walls? a brush with no texture or an opposite of func_illusionary?

Thanks in advance,

Ben 

You have two methods to choose from.

1 - Clip brushes

Make a brush and give it the clip texture. The player will not be able to pass through this brush, and they will not be able to see it.

One bad way of making a ladder is to make a detailed ladder as a func_illusionary. Inside the ladder make a set of steps that are 1 unit wide, and put it inside the ladder. When the player walks into the ladder they are instantly transported up the invisible staircase (just like a normal staircase, but all of the steps are within boundaries of the ladder's space, so the player moves upwards).

2 - Skip Texture

Make a brush and create a texture with the name 'skip'. Apply the texture to the brush. The brush will still be there, but it wont be drawn. You can use this tool on individual faces too. And you can apply it to brush entities, like doors for example. This can be used to do all sorts of things in Quake.

When you compile the map, you have to run the newskip tool to remove the faces. Created by Metlslime: http://www.celephais.net/files/newskip.zip 

Then run newskip or compile the map with these tools to have the skip texture removed automatically. 

You can shoot through them. They are great for putting diagonal brushes against pillars, for example, at the side of a corridor, sticking out of a wall.
Ever start shooting a monster in a corridor and you are moving backwards and sideways and you get stuck on a light or something? And you die because you got stuck and pwned? A well placed diagonal brush can prevent this from happening as easily, because you just glide over the thing that is sticking out of the wall.

I should do this more often :D 

or jsut make the water out of func walls with water texture on them -- it will be solid and block bullets but render as water. 

Thanks guys, learning all the time :)

In a few days I'll throw a deathmatch map I've been making up for critique. The basic geometry is done, entities are done and lighting is getting close.
I'll upload with the mechanics all finished for critiquing before finishing the texturing and decorative brushes. 

 

 

 

 

 

Warning: 256 Models Exceeds the Standard Limit of 256.

Okay, so what is it really? 255? Or do I actually have more that 256 and it's just not telling me? 

It will still load in unmodified ports despite the warning. You just can't add any more if you want to keep it vanilla.

If this or any of the other limits become a serious problem in your map, feel free to give me a shout. It seems I'm getting pretty good at optimizing these things... :P