I quote from an interview posted on http://www.gamespot.com with Tim Willts...

TW: There are a lot of things you do in Doom 3's multiplayer that are pretty cool. We have dynamic lights, we have physics objects. You can push barrels around and blow them up.

Barrels are go. 

I think I messed myself. 

very exciting stuff.... makes you want to play the game NOW. The cacodemons are awesome, scariest tomatoes i've seen all week. Quotes from the IGN interview:

IGNPC: What kind of mod support are we going to see? There will be a map editor and SDK, yes?

Tim: Well the great thing about DOOM 3 is that all the tools that we used to develop the game like the map editor, the map compiler and thing that makes all the monsters smart ships with the title. Then we even went one step further. We're actually shipping all of the source maps for the game. No game has done this and no game is going to do this. If you're making a mod and you want to see how we did something, load up our source material. That's a major advantage to modmakers that we have in DOOM 3 and it's very exciting because it really gives everybody the same tools we used. It makes me really excited to see the great mods that will be available soon.

Todd: To answer your question about the SDK, Robert and Timothy will be pulling that together but we don't have a time estimate. Probably there are a couple of things that are source related when it comes to that like the dedicated server and getting the demo out and those sorts of things. It'll come out as soon as we can pull it together. We're usually pretty good about that.

GNPC: We've heard that John Carmack is either working on a new engine or improving the DOOM 3 engine, is that going to be used for the new game?

Todd: He's not really working on a new engine, he's just updating the DOOM 3 technology. I think his comments about that were just mis-conveyed or misunderstood.

IGNPC: I assume it's an update for this next game or in general?

Todd: Exactly, the DOOM 3 technology is brand spanking new. It hasn't even been seen yet. John will probably be work on a whole new rendering engine the game after this one that we'll be working on next.


so in conclusion, editing tools for maps, models etc immediately availible! Map sources included! And the next id game will be a new franchise based on an updated Doom 3 engine with a relatively short Dev cycle. 

so i guess rubicon2 won't come out before doom3. But i still have a chance to beat coriolis force! 

id is my hero 

"Then we even went one step further. We're actually shipping all of the source maps for the game. No game has done this and no game is going to do this."

Ahem.

Have they not played Unreal, Unreal 2, UT, UT2003 and UT2004? 

Or Duke Nukem 3D, Blood, Shadow Warrior, or any other Build game?

Granted, those games didn't exactly distinguish between "compiled" and "uncompiled" like the Quake-based engines do. So I can definitely see his point that Doom 3 might be the first game where the developers made the conscious decision to release the source maps, instead of being forced to release them as a byproduct of how the game engine works. 

That would seem to lend weight to the heretical idea that Doom3 is an engine with a game attached :-)

(not that I'll be able to play it any time soon) 

Or, er... Doom? Unless I dreamt opening all those .wad's in DoomEd. 

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=592737&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=93&fpart=3&vc=1 

I don't remember doom coming with editing tools. Not a single one of those four floppy disks had the tools I so desperately wanted. I drew maps on graph paper for ages and never ever got a Doom editor...

Then I got a new pc and Duke 3d, which DID come with tools and source :)

Sorry for calling you a slag by the way, just felt it was neccessary since I've not abused or been abused by you in irc for so long. 

Your clumsy and inarticulate insults make me feel strangely aroused.

Also, you're probably right, cos I was only referring to the "We're actually shipping all of the source maps for the game" bit and missed the whole "editor in box" thing. I am a poo. 

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB7&Number=604837&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=93&fpart=1 

phait.

[b]DO
NOT
POST
LINKS
TO
MAGAZINE
SCANS.[/b]

They are quite illegal and I will not have that shit on this board. If you find them, anyone else can find them. I've already stated this in this thread before. 

gg ubb tags 

I never use them

lol 

Sorry for stepping on your humongous cock. I didn't see your statement. 

Phait: I am a moderator here, and I am saying not to post shit that will get our board in trouble. Scans from a commerical magazine are no more legal than rips from a music CD, or warez games, or whatever stolen intellectual property. I'd kinda expect things like that wouldn't be posted here, and would yell just as harshly at the people who posted them even if it wasn't stated specifically before hand not to do so.

If you can't understand why I'm not being very friendly about this issue, I suggest you stay at your fucking 3drealms shithole forum. 

No I understand why you didn't want them posted, I just wasn't aware, and also didn't think anything of it because I've seen some links to scans posted here and no one cared, and no 3DR mods jumped on the scans either. 

So...source maps... 

after seeing all these new monsters in the scans, I'm beginning to wonder if there are any monsters we haven't seen yet. (Apart from bosses). 

http://www.planetquake.com/starbuck/omggold.jpg 

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006C2HA.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg 

Doom cubed? 

Just to fuck with us.