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This is the place to ask about mapping problems, techniques, and bug fixing, and pretty much anything else you want to do in the level editor.

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Pointfiles 
the .lin files are pointfiles in quake3 right? if i take a .pts file (from q1) and change the extension, i should be able to see the point file in gtkr, right? 
Hmm 
If you run a compile from inside Radiant then it'll highlight the leak in editor (useful if your batch compile process comes up with one). 
Yeah, 
i was doing that.

except, the q3 compiler seems to be more tolerant to leaks or the q1 compiler was picking up ones that aren't considered leaks in q3. (q3 has the super complex geometry, which sometimes kills q1 compilers)

so yeah. it works. 
 
Other editors can also load leak files and display where leakage goes (not as good as gtk tho) 
Message Breaks 
I know there's a way in worldcraft to put in a line break in Messages i.e. in trigger_multiple - but what is it? 
If I Had To Guess 
It would be \n. 
Tried... 
that, didnt work 
Yes, But Is It REAL Goat Jizm? 
Try using this:

/n 
lol 
Missing Items.. 
How do I remedy missing ammo/weapons/items in maps? For instance I have some ammo beneath spotlights and some don't show. I could reposition, but I like them under the spotlights...

using Worldcraft 
Hmm 
Are they by any chance next to walls, since WC has a problem, where the in editor placement is actually 16 units off of the actual placement on both the horizontal axis. 
Worldcraft Has Broken Item Origins 
I think metlslime or somebody has a fixed .fgd. In the mean time, try putting the lower-left corner of each box where you want its center should be. 
Bleh 
yeah tried somethin like that, dunno, i just totally re-arranged the item placement.

expect PH8DM1 to be up tonight. it was originally my coagula map but i just pulled it all from my ass and had no idea where it was going but it makes a decent DM.

Heh.. 
Sometimes 
i thought they "fall" through stuff. i had it when using the same map for q1 and q2 (same rmf, different textures and compilers). never had it otherwise... 
Monsters Dropping Items 
Is this possible? How? 
To Elaborate... 
I mean when a monster is killed, lets say it drops an item such as ammo or a key, etc. 
You'll Likely Want To Edit The Code... 
There's a way to do some dropping but not all using just the map editor. Grunts, ogres and enforcers drop backpacks, which means you can give them anything that gets passed on from players through backpacks: weapons and ammo. Unfortunately, these monsters directly set the amount of ammo they have for their own weapon, so there are certain ammo's you can't set for certain monsters.

Grunts can carry any ammo except shells (they will invariably have 5 shells in their backpack no matter what you set it to).
Enforcers can carry any ammo except cells.
Ogres can carry any ammo except rockets.
To set the ammo values, use these:
ammo_shells
ammo_nails
ammo_rockets
ammo_cells

The 3 monsters can carry any weapon you want:
float IT_AXE = 4096;
float IT_SHOTGUN = 1;
float IT_SUPER_SHOTGUN = 2;
float IT_NAILGUN = 4;
float IT_SUPER_NAILGUN = 8;
float IT_GRENADE_LAUNCHER = 16;
float IT_ROCKET_LAUNCHER = 32;
float IT_LIGHTNING = 64;

Simply set the monster's "weapon" value to the number you want (note that in most mods dropping an axe or shotgun is pointless...).

Unfortunately, if you want to drop keys, runes, or other tidbits, or you want any monster to be able to drop them, you're going to have to edit the QC code so that the drop backpack function in items.qc includes keys and runes for monster deaths (or preferrably creates another dropped item that looks like the key, so that it's not hidden in a backpack!). You'll also want to make sure that your dropped key will never delete itself or dissapear... 
Thanks But..... 
I know nothing about C++ much less Quake C, lol. Oh well, I'll just.. figure an alternative. 
Phait Get My Dropit QC Plugin :) 
Help Find Textures 
Does anybody know where can I find dinosaur age themed textures or anything like that (cave textures, stones, bones, swamp, etc)
I've got some ideas about Q1DM map and need some textures for it. 
PuLSaR... 
Would the "Tomb Raider" textures on Fatty's site be of any help? 
� CLIP � 
There's one thing I still don't get about BSP's, and it's really a shame to ask this after 4 or 5 years mapping, but

I still don't know how to make CLIPs. CLIPS WITHOUT A BRUSH. I can't believe that every mapper that use clips manipulate the .map files manually or tell QBSP to skip leafs or Idonno. Almost everyone knows how to separate a clip from its brush but me. And it's very embarassing, coz I know that it's a mostly basic thing in mapping.

Please help!! 
Distrans 
Thanx. I'll take a look 
Something Very Strange... 
if doing a -fast on vis is fast, and a -level 4 is slow, than it stands to reason that a -level 1 should be faster than -fast but slower than -level 4.

well, doing a -level 1 on my map gives an estimate of 298 hours (!), whilst a -level 3 gives an estimate of 6.5 hours.

i'm not really seeing the logic here... any reasons?

i'm using aguiRe's modified RVis+ 
Oh... 
one more thing, and this question is directed to aguiRe... why do the percentages sometimes jump back down... for instance:
Full: 36.0%, Elapsed: 17:37, Left: 1:03:38, Total: 1:21:15, 21%
Full: 37.0%, Elapsed: 20:27, Left: 1:43:15, Total: 2:03:42, 16%
Full: 38.0%, Elapsed: 21:41, Left: 1:42:59, Total: 2:04:40, 17%
Full: 39.0%, Elapsed: 22:57, Left: 1:48:26, Total: 2:11:23, 17%
Full: 40.0%, Elapsed: 24:54, Left: 1:29:00, Total: 1:53:54, 21%
Full: 41.0%, Elapsed: 27:28, Left: 1:53:44, Total: 2:21:12, 19%
Full: 42.0%, Elapsed: 30:09, Left: 2:19:12, Total: 2:49:21, 17%
Full: 43.0%, Elapsed: 33:48, Left: 2:49:06, Total: 3:22:54, 16%
 
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