that does, indeed, rock

Nice lighting, very soft and moody. Half-timbering is great. 

Nice, but I think you need to pick either contrasty textures or contrasty lighting - together they're a bit overwhelming. 

Poster art quality. 

Glad you like them.

Maj, it's late afternoon, low, bright sunshine, dark faintly blue shadows or maybe I boosted the contrast a bit too much in PS.

I'm gratified that nobody seems too phased by the custom engine stuff. I'm not sure if the map will end up being playable in the standard quakes due to the large size of the textures which, anyway, look crappy in the quake palette. I'm aiming at Fitzquake; my only regret is that there isn't a s/w engine that does external textures. 

i'm phased actually, but i sincerely hope the map will be fitzquake ready when it's done :)

(/me still hates colored lites in quake) 

I put that badly - it will definitely be fine in fitzquake which does support external textures (although not on models or sprites unfortunately), skyboxes & coloured lighting; it's the original glquake & winquake that may not work.

Coloured lighting will be as tasteful as possible :) - I think it looks okay with 24-bit textures and you can always remove the .lit file if offended. 

:D

"...if offended" sounds exatly like i feel every time i see colored lite blasphemy :D 

Just a few questions, what is your level editor ?? I'm currently using QuArK, with something like your features (i.e <quote> replacement textures at .5 scale, coloured lighting, <quote> etc..) and my map seems not to be as good as yours... Or did you make some modifications on your screenshots ??? 

I don't have much of a problem with the lighting (although the first shot could do with a bit more radiosity down low). It's just the high contrast textures in the first shot tend to overwhelm it and reduce the impact. Our lead artist backs me up too ;P. Then again, maybe it looks different in-game. 

I'm using gtkradiant 1.4. I just increased the brightness & contrast of the shots as the histograms were almost entirely in the 0-128 area. 

I'm putting this on the back burner so here are some screenshots.

http://www.suspenlute.com/stuff/Quake12.jpg
http://www.suspenlute.com/stuff/Quake14.jpg 

I think you meant to say "I'm not going to finish this, so I'm just going to tease you and make you hate me." 

that's exactly what I meant to say 

I love seeing new geometry with classic textures. 

" I'm gratified that nobody seems too phased by the custom engine stuff."

Well I prefer as plain as I can have with Quake (but I'm using Fitzquake for its built-in gamma support) so... but those shots do look nice. 

Glassman's shots look beautiful, and a pox on all of yous who complain that it won't run on software/GL original. 

But it should run in standard GL/software. It's Quake you're editing for. If you want a shiny new engine, map for a shiny new game. 

That is why there are thousands of patches, hundreds of Partial and Total conversions, and Id released the source code so the engine could be modernized and these factors I listed have everything to do with why Quake is still a living game now.

The minimum system requirements of FritzQuake are low, and I doubt if there is anyone on this board who can't run it. I could be wrong on that score, but it doesnt change the fact Glassman is doing us all a huge service as well as Tigger-On for bringing Quake design forward in time.

Also, given the fact that a modified engine team can put the latest hard ware acceleration and software features in their product in a short time where as any commercial venture will have to take at least a two year development period to put their product together, it gives us end users a glimpse of the latest technology in game before it becomes commonly available in commercial games.

On top of that, it gives model makers, mappers and sound artist a headstart on keeping up with the state of the art in their fields by being able to use the technology and being able to express familiarity with it when they apply for work in those fields.

So, right on Glassman, keep at it; purist be damned to DosQuake. 

P.S. I nearly wet myself at the first shot. 

I fart on your eye Headthump. People who like Quake don't want new technology bullshit crap that doesn't look nearly as cool, they want more fun. 

what a intelligent comment. Impressive. 

The Complacent will be crushed. 

If you are against modernization in Quake, you should refrain from playing Glassman's level or Industri when they come out. But I don't really expect any consistancy from those flapping there jaws or lubicated sphincters against it. 

i just realized this: glassman said those shots were taken in fitzquake... since when did fq support skybox and highres texture replacement? O_o 

a few months back when I noticed replacement textures I had made for Dark Places were being used while playing ye ol' Elektra Complex in FitzQuake.