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As A Representative Of Canada
#8706 posted by pushplay on 2005/08/31 17:34:53
I understand that busses are impractical and sympathize with the high gas prices. We will be only too happy to sell our southern neighbours gasoline (prices adjusted to the global market) while I fill up my motorcycle for 10cnd and live in a province where political debates consists of how many gold houses and rocket cars everyone gets.
When My Term Fallows RPG's
#8707 posted by HeadThump on 2005/08/31 18:04:46
I'm gonna screw the interns and let my wife run the country.
Thanks For That, Pope...
gonna have to arrange for Mr. Friggles to have an 'accident'... his game sucks anyway!
Okay Now
#8709 posted by BlackDog on 2005/08/31 19:13:29
RPG, my issue with your posts was that you seemed to regard fuel prices, and not American dependency on fuel, as the problem to be bitched about (and hopefully solved). Since you don't seem to be saying now what I thought you were saying, I retract teh haet and subsitute teh loev.
/me throws flowers and garlands
PS Well said, Lun
Good Balanced Article On Oil
#8710 posted by grahf on 2005/08/31 19:25:25
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/magazine/21OIL.html?ex=1282276800&en=4c742b408ca7847a&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
There is still plenty of oil left, no one really disputes that, but the era of cheap oil may be over. All oil production follows a bell curve - when you've extracted half of the oil in an oil field, the 2nd half is progressively more difficult to extract, so you get diminishing returns as the production falls. This is called Hubbert's peak ( http://www.hubbertpeak.com/ ). It is theorized that we are close (10-20 years at most) to hitting the peak of the world's oil production. We are probably seeing the beginning signs now - supply is strained and is falling behind demand - and the gap is being filled with soaring prices, which are never going to come significantly back down. Demand will inevitably continue to grow exponentially, but if the supply is hitting the top of a bell curve, then we really need some drastic replacement, fast. But as oil prices increase, previously infeasible alternative energy replacements will begin to look more and more attractive. Oil will be replaced long before we use it all up.
I think it's going to be a very interesting next couple of years.
Grahf
#8711 posted by inertia on 2005/08/31 19:43:03
It is theorized that we are close (10-20 years at most) to hitting the peak of the world's oil production. We are probably seeing the beginning signs now - supply is strained and is falling behind demand - and the gap is being filled with soaring prices, which are never going to come significantly back down.
Wouldn't the prices increase AFTER we passed the supply boom?
Regardless, interesting points about the asymptotic nature of oil drilling and production.
Meh
Oil will be replaced long before we use it all up.
You sure about that? Lets not forget that this is a reactionary world, and we won't know we're out of oil until theres none left or such shortages that parts of the world are unable to get any more. If you think we'll all be driving energy efficient/alternative fueled cars well before the oil supply starts to bottom out, I think you are kidding yourself.
I'd Buy A Hybrid
#8713 posted by . on 2005/08/31 20:31:35
But they're ugly.
Another American issue -- vanity.
Production Is Limited, But Demand Is Not
#8714 posted by BlackDog on 2005/08/31 20:33:39
And since demand is what drives up the price, there's nothing to stop oil becoming expensive even before production reaches it's peak.
Planes, Trains, And LOL Look At That Loser Walking Down The Street!
#8715 posted by Blitz on 2005/08/31 20:41:16
I can't tell you the number of times I've walked from point A to point B in my city, (about 100,000) and gotten hassled by people in cars being dickheads. I'm not obese, I'm not missing a limb, and I'll dare say I'm about as average looking as they make lower-middle class white American males, and yet, when I'm out on foot, I usually feel so isolated from the rest of the world, because there is fucking no one else walking, and 300 cars blowing by me a minute.
My city is by no means big geographically; any physically fit person could ideally walk or bike anywhere they needed to go. But the thing is, people like cars. They like feeling invulnerable to the things around them. They like honking, and yelling out the window, and driving 1/24th of a mile to go get some Grilled Salmon flavored ice cream.
It's not a stretch to say that the majority of American cities that have between 30,000 and 100,000 people are too big to navigate by bus, bike, or foot.
Yet in my city of 100,000 people, if you see an adult walking down the street, you think they're homeless, crazy, a rapist or all 3.
We could very easily get by, and generally be a lot better off if people gave up relying on cars for every place they need to go, no matter the distance. But as long as people look at cars as status symbols and mobile suburban fortresses of doom, (tm) that will never happen.
I personally hope that the impending oil and gas crisis will help people to get back to walking, riding bikes, and public transportation. It's nice to see other people out getting fresh air and just conducting their business.
People will be a lot nicer and more considerate when they don't have the luxury of hiding behind fortified steel and 20" tires. I just know it.
Half Way Finished With The Article
#8716 posted by HeadThump on 2005/08/31 21:00:13
Grahf, really good stuff here; I have long been a skeptic of the Times, given how they allow their paper to be used for political agendas (see the last eight years of Judith Miller's alarmist coverage on Iraqis non existent WMD's), but this article is quite substantial in its arguments and rebuttals and fleshing out the different point of views. It certainly caught my attention that a CFR guy (Simmons, who is profiled in the article) is at the heart of the peakist debate.
Thanks for this heads up.
Side Note
#8717 posted by HeadThump on 2005/08/31 21:11:27
CFR guy Council of Foreign Relations -- not implying conspiracy, I know how popular those are around here -- right, Phait;) CFR is pretty open and transparent about its motivations, and they publish a journal Foreign Affairs that outlines there ideology and what the goals they have for anyone who is curious. That they would work towards undermining a Monarchy like the Saudis is not suprising (nor is it necessarily a bad thing).
Oil Bubble
#8718 posted by bambuz on 2005/09/01 00:55:02
yeah read grafh's stuff. For a more alarmist viewpoint, check www.survivingpeakoil.com
Was it Hubbert or Campbell who predicted back then that the US oil production would fall into decline in 1972. And it did.
Indonesia used to be an oil exporter. Now they have to import it, and the government has to inject subsidies to avoid riots.
The north sea oil fields have turned to decline in 2000. Russia and the Caucasus region can still keep up about ten years. Knowledgeable people are just waiting for the big word to drop: when Saudi Arabia's production turns down.
Sadly, or to some people, happily, there aren't any good alternatives to oil. Hydrogen sucks for a multitude of reasons, mainly because it takes a lot of energy to create it and because it's very hard to store.
Oil is still currently practically free energy pouring out of the ground. Some have said that when the price reaches 200$/Barrel, real economic implications will happen.
Might just be that if you want to live, learn to grow cabbage and work with horses. It might just turn out that this period of urban development and science and technology and whatnot was just an odd historical bubble made possible by a certain nonrenewable resource - oil makes life such as if you had 50 slaves in your personal service. From a warm shower in the morning to your clothes, transportation, and food.
Inertia
#8719 posted by gibbie on 2005/09/01 03:36:57
I was on vacation for two weeks... but i'm back now! Still messing around with those texs (you know...).
Your map is r4wk btw! It was fun to see it gradually bit by bit getting better and more polished. I still think you rushed the release a bit, but oh well.
Come to irc and we'll talk, you homosexual!
Doh
#8720 posted by grahf on 2005/09/01 05:42:29
/me reads his post from last night again...
Doh, I'm not an economics major, I might have fumbled my arguments a little bit. Ray, the point I think I was trying to make was that if oil becomes extremely expensive, alternative energies that weren't competitive in the past will become so, and the market will naturally transition to the cheapest technology. That's theoretically speaking at least, I worry that it may be too late if we sit around and wait for "the market" to iron things out for us. About "oil prices never coming back down," that will be the case only as long as the present demand for oil keeps up. If some other energy replaces oil's dominance, or we become vastly more efficient at using oil, then yes, the price would drop again.
Bambuz
#8721 posted by Jago on 2005/09/01 08:37:57
[17:00:11] <bambuz> yea
[17:00:26] <bambuz> and of course, probably do a bit harder tricks in the first few maps
[17:00:33] <bambuz> since you can restart if you fuck up
I really hope you don't think that entire-game runs are really done in 1 sitting. Speedrunners do dozens and dozens of runs per map and then merge the best runs together. You even see the runner credits at the end of QDQ and other similar full-blown runs, which runner did which map.
Death Metal Band Name Generator
#8722 posted by . on 2005/09/01 09:35:18
Recently came across some thread about death metal and I remembered I had the Quake Map Name Generator:
http://www.phait-accompli.com/crap/php/quake_map_generator.php
So here's the Death Metal Band Name Generator:
http://www.phait-accompli.com/crap/php/death_metal_generator.php
Yay
#8723 posted by Lunaran on 2005/09/01 11:11:21
Grahf, nice article.
Blitz, I know what you mean. In a lot of newer areas of Savannah the infrastructure was so dependent on cars they just didn't bother to put in sidewalks at all. It was just malls and apartment complexes connected by six-lane roads. :(
I'm fortunate enough now to live in a city that puts bike lanes on every road it can, and I plan on biking to/from work as often as possible.
A Strafe-jumping Cat For All Of You
#8724 posted by Jago on 2005/09/01 12:35:01
Lol, Phait,
#8725 posted by HeadThump on 2005/09/01 12:46:25
I got, Evacuated Xenapistia; I think I had one of those by a realy kinky doctor once.
Jago
#8726 posted by mwh on 2005/09/01 13:25:32
We also get nutters who do whole game runs in one sitting -- check the latest SDA update! (for the lazy: Nightmare 100% of all of quake in 78:01).
The easy and nightmare runs have both been improved recently too.
Lol Jago
#8727 posted by bambuz on 2005/09/02 00:02:45
some speed runs are of the special type that an episode or even many are done in one sitting. (like all of id1 or just e1 or all the terra maps) The qdq runs were not, they were of the other type - just parsed together single level runs, maybe with some continuity twists (i.e. rl from some previous map, don't remember).
That is precisely the difference I'm talking about - if you have a map that has a trick that has 50% chance of working, you can pretty much rely on it on a single map run. If you fumble, just retry the run.
If you run ten maps in a row, and every map would have to have that 50% trick to work, the chances of completing them all is one in 1024. In other words, the expected number of runs to do before succeeding all the tricks would be over a thousand. Of course, it sucks if you complete all the other tricks and then fuck up the last one since you lost so much playing time and effort.
Therefore it's wiser to try harder / the hardest tricks first and if you don't succeed, just restart since you didn't lose much time or effort trying anyway.
3 New Map Reviews At My Site:
1.heresp4: beyond the black sun.
2.heresp3: castle of pain.
3.tris: The Rest is Silence.
http://www.planetquake.com/underworld/index.html
Underwoldfan
#8729 posted by bal on 2005/09/02 04:36:03
What's up with your screenshots? Those TRIS shots almost make the map look fullbright in areas... =\
Hmm...
I think it all depends on the individuals monitors settings, but ill take your note into account.
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