...to let you both know I love you with all my heart and I will go to bed a happy man tonight and masturbate furiously in the morning because of you.

Thanks! 

I second the motion. Both. Love. Happy. Furiously.
Good night :)

( look, a smiley ^^^ ) 

hardcore gay bondage sex?! this remindsme, jesus and satan pratice kamasutra together. 

What I meant about q2 lighting style was the texture based lighting. The fact you could "turn on" a texture and have it emit an averaged colored light. (based on the textures base color) I know some of the newer maps I have looked at have exibited similar lighting qualities around textures as q2 had on some of it textures. 

There are two kinds of opinions in this world: those with guns and those who dig. 

Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one 

You had to answer, didn't you? 

I would love to refer you all to the classic internet picture which carries a small messege, unfortunately I suck and dont have it or know the link, so this quote will have to do instead :

"Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, your still retarded"

:) :) :) :) :) :) :D :D :D :D :D :D !!!!! 

At the very least, I strive to be the best retard of them all.

A dubious honor to be sure. Still, it's good to have goals. 

I'm sorry to disappoint you guys, but I've no current plans to include coloured lighting or antilights in my Light tool.

They're both features that I don't use myself or have any major interest in. It's also not that easy to incorporate them, they both require substantial changes and add quite a bit complexity.

I hope you'll understand my current stance. It may change of course ... 

I didn't hold much hope, as I asked you before if you were planning it, but you got to be in it to win it, so I thought I would through my hat in the ring again. 

AFAIK, what you call texture based lighting is what is known as surface lighting and my tool doesn't do that.

There is however a tool called q1rad that can do that, go to http://www.orbiter-productions.com/alchemy/radiosity for more details and download.

If you've seen a recent map that has been lit by my light tool and that appears to have surface lighting, maybe it's because I've added some softening features that can reduce the sometimes harsh shadowing of Q1.

I think a good mapper can make use of this and create an atmosphere that feels a bit different than regular Q1 but still with the same relentless combat. Or something ... 

I have no idea what utility the guy used on the map, it just appeared to be using surface lighting. I will probly try both of them out to see which I like more. 

Wazat's thought process:

>As much fun as this has been, this is the Mapping Help thread, not the Mental Help thread. So I bid you good day

1st reaction: Aw mannnn... I'm in the wrong place.

2nd reaction: Wait, there really is a Mental Help thread? Then the stories are true! Link!

3rd reaction: Where am I, and why are the people arguing?

I just think it's funny that such a large percentage of the recent posts was just a flame war. Here I was thinking there was an in-depth discussion on the higher principles of mapping, spanning over 50 or so posts. :) 

that was NOT a flame war. 

That was polite Sunday-afternoon banter. 

A difference of opinions on the finest of points. Carried out in a diplomatic, open-minded exchange of ideas on a multitude of non-offending subjects.

Yes, quite. 

:) 

That was a couple of hundred posts short of a flame war too 

If I play my cards right, I can start a flame war over the definition of a flamewar...

/me is left to ponder... 

Long time since I saw a good old flamewar.

Someone insult someone! 

I think Lovecraft is stupid, even though I've never read anything he's ever written and have no idea what it's about.

I'm also not a fan of Giger.

Those seem to be two of the most highly guarded subjects on this board, at least. 

Lovecraft couldn't write good prose to save his life, and Giger was a first class, blue ribbon asshole. I wouldn't call any of them holy cows either.

You suck at this game. 

Your favorite bands suck. 

My favorite band is "SUCK" as well.