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Posted by Lee Vermeulen on 2003/06/04 23:07:51

<Vermeulen> You there?
<scampie> no
<Vermeulen> Funny, very clever. But have you been telling people that Alientrap is a bad group to be a part of?
<scampie> yes
<Vermeulen> Why?
<scampie> because
<Vermeulen> Good reason. But if it is because of what happened before, that is quite immature. I did nothing wrong, you did, you thought it was a huge chance to get into the gaming industry, i said no such thing
<Vermeulen> All i said was that if we sell the game, you get some of the profit
<Vermeulen> You asked for a contract, i said no, then you write in your column how evil AT is?
<scampie> and it looks like in the long run, I've made the right choice
<Vermeulen> scampie, I am asking you for a reason why you are still telling people this
<Vermeulen> Because I did nothing wrong
<scampie> because LordHavoc asked my opinion, and that's my opinion.
<Vermeulen> But, i must say i am sorry for getting your hopes up, but i didn't think someone would actually think they were getting into the industry threw it. It was just like a basic mod
<scampie> yes, it was a bt of a misunderstanding, but still, even if you asked me today to do anything you even THOUGHT about selling, I'd not do a thing before any acual physical writing
<scampie> it's common fucking sense
<scampie> now stop wasting my time you fucking dipshit
<Vermeulen> "I noticed you also have a bad reputation in #terrafusion, something about being affiliated with the guy who claimed to have made all of ZTN's maps" This, i have to say, pisses me off the most.
<Vermeulen> Scampie, if you look at any internet game studio in the works, they do the same thing. There is nothing wrong with that.
<Vermeulen> and you could of just said you didn't want to be a part of the game and left it at that

This is what i was saying to scampie on IRC. I was not borthering him, i was just asking him why he was saying such bad things about me and my projects.

He then kicked me out of terrafusion, abusing the small power he had.

Scampie, could you give me some answers?

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Title, My Arse!

#42 posted by bascule on 2003/06/11 03:03:03

...in fact it's like car-crash TV on constant repeat, because the same arguments go round and round again with no apparent differences.

Sup Doods

#43 posted by Friction on 2003/06/11 04:14:12

hay guys what's going on in this thread?

Vermin-len.

#44 posted by wrath on 2003/06/11 04:50:10

"He wanted a contract that says he gets money no matter what...."

Damn him for expecting a paycheck in return for time spent, damn his commie hide to hell! To hell I say!

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you are 20 years old, previously unemployed, and are running this show from your parents basement.

#45 posted by wrath on 2003/06/11 05:39:41

But i must say, this community has developed to the worst community i've seen (i am comparing it to what it used to be 1999-2002 with Qboard and PeejNfribs).

We aim to please, mind the claymores.

This Thread

#46 posted by Shallow on 2003/06/11 05:44:27

Would be better if it had more links to amusing pictures of monkeys.

Wow

#47 posted by Aardappel on 2003/06/11 06:10:43

I couldn't care less about who said what, but boy, do you lot (scampie, and those who "praise" him") have a sucky attitude. Replying every attempt at discussion with evasive rudeness sure is smart. No wonder this community shrinks and has been getting more pathetic over time.

Hey, if you are going to be elitist, do it right: make sure your superiority has some basis in reality (i.e. you have significant stuff to be proud of), and you actually have an audience of non-elite people to stand above. You people have neither.

.plp.

#48 posted by czg on 2003/06/11 06:18:16

http://images.google.com/images?q=monkey+fun

#49 posted by wrath on 2003/06/11 06:33:09

Now where did I put that really fucking tiny violin?

Arse

#50 posted by ELEK on 2003/06/11 07:55:17

My dog's name is Bailey and she likes ice cubes.

VERLINEUM THE PROBLEM IS . . .

#51 posted by MONSTO BRUKES on 2003/06/11 11:20:46

THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU KINda misrepresented what was up with your proj. Actually the problems are several fold, but that's one of the major ones.

here's an example: a friend of mine asked me to talk to the team lead of a proj he was working on, www.DarkSummer.com . . . 227 (leads nick) talked (icq) to me about the proj, what his goals were, what i'd be doing, and a timeframe for the project. One of the VERY FIRST things he said was basically "I'm trying to startup a game company, and we have NO MONEY but i am looking for backers." and then said further that he was trying to get people that would stay with the proj if they got backing. i said "ok sounds cool."

He then emailed me an NDA that i printed scanned and emailed back, and then he emailed me a 47 page design document. The guy had not only his shit, but other shit completely together. this year he went to e3, talked to publishers and showed them a demo and had several of them want more information.

This isn't the way YOU came off with your proj to scampie THREE YEARS ago. from all the sounds of it, you wanted to do a mod but all your energy was devoted not to the mod but hoping that it'd become a valve or 2015 or splashdamage... a mod team turned commercial team. Those 3 teams are not JUST teh exception, but an outright unique happening... it just doesn't happen.

On top of that, you need to get over it: that article is dated over 3 years ago. on top of THAT, regardless of whether it's your fault for misrepresenting or his fault for being money grubbing, you have in scampie a person that had a bad experience with you. When this happens, you get bad reviews/references. I have both received and given bad references/reviews, and the best way to deal with it is to accept appropriate responsibility head on and be ready to clearly explain your position. you have not done this. DOING THIS is how you get hired even with a bad reference.

As a former mod-team lead, and Core Member of a recently deceased project, i can tell you that you are NOT a game company, therefore you can't hire people... you can only ask for volunteers. As a mod-team lead, you have no teeth. you can't force anyone to do anything, you are comepletely and totally at the mercy of the individuals that volunteer for your project, and you need to be able to mentally bounce back from the millions of setbacks that you're likely to have.

Get your shit together, know your goals (incremental and complete), and get over the 3 year old OPINIONS that don't directly blacken your eye. it was only an opinion. Ask yourself "WHAT PART OF THAT WHOLE THING WAS MY FAULT" AND THEN HERE'S THE KEY... you answer that question, learn from the answer, and move on. you haven't done any of that.

especially the 'move on' part.

HIRED VS VOLUNTEERING

#52 posted by MONSTO BRUKES on 2003/06/11 11:24:37

""
He wanted a contract that says he gets money no matter what....
""

sure. if someone is going to HIRE YOU, you want to get paid.

if you had asked scampie to do a couple of maps for a mod, he probably would have done that.

it was all in the way you represented it.

besides that IT WAS 3 FUCKING YEARS AGO.

JESUS.

Good Post, Monsto.

#53 posted by metlslime on 2003/06/11 14:46:19

pretty much the only post worth reading in here.

Wow

#54 posted by pope on 2003/06/11 15:33:02

Let's Release A Book..

#55 posted by . on 2003/06/11 16:10:27

"The love and hate of func and #tf - Volume 1"

With random monkey pictures.

Phait

#56 posted by pushplay on 2003/06/11 17:12:53

It should only have monkey pictures.

#57 posted by Scampie on 2003/06/11 17:38:56

no cheese and crates?

#58 posted by . on 2003/06/11 22:44:17

If it only had monkey pictures, everyone would have to guess who is who.

I suppose that wouldn't be so hard, though.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

#59 posted by nane on 2003/06/13 10:37:27

wrath, Grahf, bascule, you guys rock.

#60 posted by Kell on 2003/06/15 22:25:44

no cheese and crates?

I'd say there's plenty of cheese. Just no crates.

: )

#61 posted by nakasuhito on 2003/06/16 00:27:06

hahaha

#62 posted by . on 2003/06/16 01:46:42

"No cheese and no crates makes Homer go something something..."

"Crazy?"

"Don't mind if I do!" *goes crazy*

Wait

#63 posted by inertia on 2003/06/23 02:51:24

did i miss something or is this thread retarded?

Lee Vermeulen Is On Qmap ??? Fuck You Lee

#64 posted by here on 2003/06/23 11:43:15

The leader of the nexuiz project ...
There is 1 year I contact him to map for the nexuiz mod he answer me very quickly ... He say the team need me for maps . At this time i haven't any site and first connexion on the web (sorry for my bad english , i m french). My maps wasn't very beautiful and worked, He pretexted : "i didn't like your light effects" He give me a very beautifull map "croctears" . After this message i ask to him if he can help me, no reponse no contact since 1 year i send to him an icq message to him but never he try to answer . I hate you lee vermeuleen you are motherfucker . Scampie you help me but sorry i hate lee he is a ... sorry for bad word i hate this man. Lee I hate you . I want tyou to know that stupid man ...

PS : All the mappers are started with bad maps and i can t accept this things . Thanks to all mapper of this website to ignore vermeulen .

...

#65 posted by LV on 2003/06/23 12:24:57

i don't even know who you are :P

#66 posted by . on 2003/06/23 13:04:43

"Hate" is a pretty strong word. Hating somebody over something this trivial is what's stupid in my opinion. I think the people involved should just get over it, kiss ass if you have to - or just go your own ways and go about your lives and learn from it.

Lighten up.

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