On behalf of the International Jewish Conspiracy I'm here to inform you all that you've completely forgotten about how the Bush family is attempting to antagonize a war with the Middle East by secretly bombing the World Trade Center because the alien spacecraft recovered at Roswell only run on crude oil and sand, and without them Majestic 12 can't track down the rogue nano-augmented UNATCO field agents attempting to locate Tracer Tong and scuttle the superfreighter. 

But it's funny. 

you all should be playing that wonderful speedmapping pack #95 instead of picking on the poor NWO. 

Phait is totally right! I found another NWO page that totally corroborates it!
http://www.fortunecity.com/olympia/wade/372/ 

Stop pushing them Headthump or they might realise we all embedded subliminal messages in our maps. 

but I think we may be able to get Levelord to speed map for the next event if we all chip in and buy him a bottle of Canabis Vodka.

BTW, do you know what the Silent Hill reference means? I think Zwiffle must be doing Life(TM) related things. 

This thread will get at least 200 responses and will end as either a omg qmap is dying thread, or a omg elitist fucks thread.


You sir, have a gift. 

Phait, get the fuck off my internet. 

Well, I haven't looked at the links, but I might later though.

I don't really buy it, sure there are probably conspiracies going on, but nothing on this kind of level.

I do believe we're not alone in the universe though, it's a huge place and there are tons of galaxies. Whether they're floating above the Earth abducting people, I really can't say. But there's gotta be SOMETHING else out there somewhere - the universe is an infinitely complex place.

But, I do think it's strangely odd (redundant?) how many mappers in the US who frequent this board are anchoring in Wisconsin. We've got the majority of the United States' Quake mappers I think. Honestly, we've got like 7 or something like that. Not to make light of the thread, but that is kinda weird.

Still, a lot of this is really interesting, regardless of how ludicrous it sounds, and I would watch something about it on the History channel. 

...read Umberto Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum" FFS, have a laugh at your own expense, then get on with life. 

Someone please delete it. 

It isn't about believing. At this point I don't completely believe it, but my point is people need to be aware that things like this could happen, whether on the scale I am talking about, or on a less "crazy" scale but one that is still important.

I understand your skepticism and disinterest in anything that sets off your Loony-Alert�, but I don't understand why some of you (Hi Frib) don't seem to care about what condition the government/world is in, or will come to, that at least ties into power, control -- something that obviously is not new. 

like you said "something that obviously is not new". No point discussing it here, it's already been done to death in many other forms of media. 

Why does Shambler want to monopolise the rights to create inane unrealted threads
Every one can do it! Even fait.

Tho have to admit that conspiracy is soo ZZzzz-inducing, compared to the ever funny 'most sexy mapper'

BTW I suspect that the New World Order Underground Alien Government made phait quit mapping and put the hate-implants into CZG cranium, not to mention its 4 year lasting attempts to prevent Bal from releasing baldm5

Some say that Vondur is to blame for it, but truth is somewhere out there ...

oh and the mandatory 'Go map!' 

Who says I quit mapping? Check screenshots thread... 

 

thread is worth it just for #39 :D Now if phait can somehow twist the theme of the thread to fit in with gaming/mapping then I will be impressed. 

if you don't care about the world you live in or the government that runs your country, or ultimately how you live -- your loss. 

Phait, you say that, yet in your initial post you write things like:

This stuff also involves the G8 (which I am not real familiar with I just know it is some government organization)

When one obviously has no clue about world politics (no offence, blame your government about it if that makes you feel better), don't actually try and discuss such matters and actually expect serious replies and discussion to ensue.
You obviously have much to learn about how the world works before even considering if you want to believe or not in this world conspiracy mumbo jumbo. Making an opinion for oneself when missing so much info is not a good idea. 

I'm still learning about things, which is why for instance I'm not completely familiar with G8, I just hear about it. But as I seek more knowledge, of course I'll understand things more. 

well, if you don't have any chemical brain problems (some cause feelings of paranoia and can be helped with drugs) and can work rationally, there is only one way you can gain confidence whether these things are true or not: study. I am serious, and don't mean anything offending.

I once did that thing when I wanted to form a self-believable opinion about wind power and nuclear power - I found quite a lot of expert material on the net (you just have to discard the massive amounts of propaganda first.)
You have to gather quit a lot of basic information of how the government in your country and various organizations work etc.. You can probably get good books on that from the library too, and reading history helps as to why these organizations have formed the way they are.

All good citizens actually should behave like that, be concerned about what the people in power are doing! 

blitz, snusnupie and bal win. blitz should learn punctuation tho.

btw, phait, how old are you ? 

 

you own. thanks for pointing out the obvious G8 absurdity. 

Isn't there some term for an arguement which contains an automatic denouncement of the opposing perspective?

ie...
"There are no aliens abducting people" <--- "You're part of the government coverup!"

"Christianity isn't literally true, you know" <--- "the devil wants you to think that!"

"Conspiracy theories this vast and disorganized are more likely a product of paranoia than a reflection of reality" <--- "You've been programmed to think that, it's an automatically conditioned response!"

I believe the CIA abandoned project MK-Ultra because they deemed mind control, at the time, did not have a stable, predictable or remotely useful success rate. Or that's what they *said* anyway (cue evil music).

Of course, I do believe that giant and powerful organizations like governments and corporations use propaganda to manipulate public opinion; I think most people would agree that that's realistic, and there are historical examples from the French Revolution to Hitler. However, as a history student, what I've basically learned is, that social forces are really just a series of groups all acting in their own interests. The idea of one "super-group" that has the resources and ability to manipulate the entire world seems absurd. If they did have this ability, what would be their goal? Obviously, most groups want power and to impose their philosophy/agenda on others, but there are too many competing groups/agendas/ideologies even today, for such a thing to be real.

My advice is, depending on the country and financial situation you are in, this may or may not be practical, but if you really want to learn this stuff, go to university and take history, political science, philosophy, psychology and so forth. Some people there are fairly crazy, you may run into a wacky marxist or two, but on the whole the experience will provide you with the tools and knowledge to make informed judgements on such things.

I really like and agree with post #8