...could some kind person make the original progs.dat discussion visible for me?

'View all threads' does nothing for me in IE6 or Green Browser. 

is it biodegradable? 

I tried Green Browser 'cause aguirRe had recommended it sometime ago as an IE alternative.

I just get a 'Cannot find server or DNS Error' when I click on View All Threads or News Archive.

I am trying to review the original Progs.dat thread as there are some things in there I want to try. 

If you find edge dragging difficult on trisouped brushes (as pjw mentioned above) try using 'quad'souping instead. Rather than use triangular block use square blocks which make edge draggin much easier and you can still get some pretty interesting 'terrain' shapes as well.

sock has a couple of tutorials on his site about quad souping (I thought I had them linked but haven't added them to the new version of meh site yet) 

works fine here in my GreenBrowser, you might be having local DNS issues. Func_ has been a bit reluctant lately, though. Very high latency and sometimes inaccessible.

Metl: The Chinese free biodegradable GreenBrowser has its name because it unlike most other Windows apps doesn't clutter your system at all. Everything is kept in one dir and works really well. Try it: http://www.morequick.com/indexen.htm 

I've never been able to View All Threads - I mean never as in never, ever, not nohow in any case ever, never.

I think I reported this once before. I think that's where your suggestion of GreenBrowser came from.

Can someone drag it to the Last 10 Posts area for me. Pretty please with sugar? 

Although I probably won't bother, is it possible to make Quake monsters in Max 7? Can you still export them to work in Meddle.

Hmm, maybe it has some legacy file exporters remaining? 

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yes.
to be more verbose, any app that can export to dxf format could be used in theory to make meshes. just make sure you hide any non-mesh geometry, like bones, helpers, etc when exporting.

i'd recommend QME3.0 though, but that's just because that's what i use. :P 

Thanks. 

Can you animate them in character studio (or whatever), or must you animate them simply by moving the vertices around? 

i personally don't use Character Studio, as i like to rig my meshes on my own and set up my helpers and IK the way i like (esp since often doing monsters for quake, the skeleton structure can be rather atypical)

afterwards, i just export each frame as a seperate dxf file (after hiding everything but the mesh) and then import each in sequence into QME.

remember to set the framerate to 10fps, so that when you preview your animations in max, it will be at the correct speed. (max defaults to 30) 

Pretty much cleared it up :D 

In my brief stint messing around with quake model animation, I exported a base from from qme in lwo format, imported into MilkShape, had to do some sort of transformation to get it to appear correctly (flip one axis I beleive), then rig a skeleton and animate. It's a pain in the ass that way, but once you have a good skeleton made, animation is easy (and fun). The quake enforcer looks odd doing the robot though. 

If you wanna make quake models using only free tools, the best combo I've found is making the model in gmax - mesh, skin and animations. Then export it to md3, load it in quark and export it to mdl. Gmax has a fairly decent setup for skeletal animation, it's not character studio but it's easier than any native Q1 tool. 

The reliable and also last known mirror of planetquake is now gone. ftp.sunet.se's idgames2 archive has been permanently deleted.

There are still some other idgames2 mirrors, but with far less content. 

That's not true. How come sunet had more content than other idgames2 mirrors? I mean mirror is mirror after all.

I will try to contact them and get a mirror of sunet idgames2 at Quaddicted. At least as much as I can squeeze on my space :) 

Sunset.se is the best mirror in my experience - where other's faltered, SUNET.SE STOOD ERECT! 

Have the old -threads switches on the compiler utils been ripped out?
Now that I'm on a dual CPU system, it would be nice to be able to take advantage of it...
(Right now the compile won't use more than 50% CPU.) 

worked in Win32, only alpha (unix). I just removed the options. 

Still, I figured I could set it to run on realtime and still have windows be responsive since it only runs on one CPU anyway.
Not sure if it makes it go any faster though... 

recommend that. You won't gain anything if you don't have other CPU-intensive processes running. And in that case, it's better to terminate them or set them to lower priority.

You could however run vis/light for two different maps simultaneously if you can specify thread affinity (i.e. manually select CPU for each thread) at startup. 

Too bad I'm not that multitasking. :/

Perhaps I could try to run vis and light for the same map at the same time...........
Perhaps if I made separate copies of the bsp for each process and then made some small prog to merge the visdata/lightdata lumps into one bsp... 

cheers, working on a monster now 3dsmax5 (until I "aqcuire" v8) and using qME - everything seems pretty straightforward, I�ve even managed to use unwrap texture properly and create a photoshop 256 .bmp for import (even though the skin painter in qME seems adequete).

>>watch this space for critical newb help errors<< ;) 

According to the website:

As of October 6, 2005, Autodesk will no longer offer Gmax� software as a stand-alone product. If you are interested in other 3D animation, modeling, and rendering applications from Autodesk please check out Autodesk� 3ds Max� software.