I don't get telefragged, but I get whipped (bunnyhoppers/lag, honest!) 

...just wanted to get sure ;)

@nitin: omf is hidden cuz we planned to make it bonus/secret level - we're not sure at the moment if it end up being easily avaible like the rest of maps or maybe it will be hidden in some crazy way. 

http://landhell.fpp.pl/quake3/index.php?PAGE=down&FILE=plduel_0.9.zip&DIR=mapy 

is now added to the thread topic. 

plduel 4 got nice design
too bad I dont play promode
maybe will try these at work (we still play q3 like once a month) 

is possible to run quake3 like this?

http://trinca.no.sapo.pt/work.jpg

windows mode small screen :) eheh is much more cooler to play in work!!! :)the boss dont see and is easy to quit 

Press alt+enter or set fulscreen 'off' in video settings. 

plduel3 reminded me of mcgee's alice. I think techegypt is a cool sounding word and would be a cool theme to explore in the future. The maps didn't do it for me though. 

Progaming is a joke? Go tell that to any of the professional players who make a living playing for a CS, PK, or SC squad. And please stfu k? :) 

It's not a joke as in pro gaming is no way to make money, it's a joke in that YOU'RE MAKING MONEY PLAYING GAMES, get real.

So please stfu, k? :) 

But Like my old saying,

Opinioins are like Scampies, everyone's got one 

Progaming is a joke, yes
I prsonaly knew some ppl who were at the top and competed internationly at the high level.
They all desided to do other stuff and return to study.

Its like sport - competition is huge, u have to dedicate all of yourself and all your time to it. In return you get nothing (well, maybe a slim chance to win some local crap tourney and maybe get to wcg or cpl or whatever)
Only a dozen of kids out of thousands get to win some money and a bit of fame.

"make a living playing CS" ? more like living on parents` support while they are still in school. Sponsorship? Again, only top few get money from it. Unlike in other sports.

Inert, you are not 14 yrsold, are you?
go map 

Progaming has become a valid way to make money. Is there as much universal appeal as Formula racing or soccer? No. But enough companies have found it profitable to spend money on the gaming industry, and fund the best gamers, that progaming should be taken seriously.

Phait: your comment, "YOU'RE MAKING MONEY PLAYING GAMES, get real," is foolishly narrow-minded. If you are good at something, and its profitable, should you not make money from it because its "silly"? Or is there some other bias you have against people who play games?

...I could easily argue that any professional athlete is wasting society's time by sucking up resources that could be used to provide other, more needed, services. But I won't, because the free market economy allows consumers to determine the price for the goods and services they want. And obviously, athletes and entertainers provide useful enough services that they make money from it (sometimes, alot of money!).

The same goes for progaming... the demand for skilled players is there, so obviously someone is going to supply this demand and pay them to play. It's common economic sense.

Additionally, in an industry as big as gaming, which serves a "young" audience, gamers demand the success of "gaming role models." These people can provide a set of goals and inspirations for the masses of younger gamers. 

Athletic sports have been around for centuries and are very welcomed amongst the general populace. I think it's ridiculous athletes are paid millions in endorsements and contracts when people that truly make a difference aren't paid nearly as much (police, doctors, scientists, lawyers), but such is the way things work.

The reason pro gaming is such a stupid idea to me is because it hasn't become as welcomed, conditioned and recognized as true sports have been. Maybe if I was born 30 years from now and it's demand and popularity was on par with football, baseball, basketball etc. and had been for some time, I wouldn't think of it as ridiculous.

It's cool you can win money, but making a living? I think that's foolish, it's not real work. 

Whether something is worthwhile depends on whether it is "welcomed, conditioned, and recognized"??

Tell me, are you a politician? Or perhaps the boss of a major record label or TV station?

Welcome to Phait's world of bland homogenisation, where popularity and acceptance are what counts! 

I meant that the idea of professional gaming is so odd/ridiculous to me because for one it's still a rather new "culture" or "profession" that it's hard to accept this as a new means of making a living, when everyone else works their asses off even in entertainment and physical sports. 

Hmm, are you defending your opinion, or apologizing for it? 

Phait u have no idea
pro gamers 'work their asses off' they have no life 

Hmm, are you defending your opinion, or apologizing for it?

Clarifying. 

I totally missed reading this thread.

Phait, you are a complete shit for yanking this thread off the topic of the maps, which I doubt you played, and starting some stupid debated you didn't even defend. If you want to discuss something, take it to GA or make a new thread. Leave news threads about the news at hand. 

I thought this might happen, so yes - sorry for derailing your thread. Besides which, I did defend my opinion, else I wouldn't of elaborated upon my initial reply stating said opinion. Seriously Scampie, suck a fat one, you deserve it anyways. 

Regardless of what you say, you successfully challenged none of my points. So... yeah, progaming is profitable and good! :) 

1) Pro gaming isn't a joke. Just pro gamers.

2) Novelty isn't an inherent reason for something to be 'a joke' (in the same way, hundreds of years of existence don't automatically make something worthwhile (see slavery).

3) Why on earth have a secret level in a deathmatch game? 

wtf does slavery have to do with pro gaming?