are these last few posts just one big troll?

you know the "clear" command is a thing yeah? clears the console?

bind F12 "screenshot;clear"

does what you want I think? 

metlslimes suggestion of "con_notifytime" is better than using clear, imo. 

reading that back again sounds a bit patronising, but I think it's a valid solution for now.

Maybe the fact it clears the console history doesn't make it a perfect solution. 

lol, I skimmed past that.

Yeah that's even better. 

yeah, i changed the binding now too.
no trolling intended. 

that rrp gif is 5 yrs old now, i just remembered making it was such a chore not knowing how to disable the message. 

It would be neat if QS allowed for changing the actual layout and functionality of the hud. I think stuff like that would be very cool esp for big mods like AD. 

That requires support for CSQC hud code - I think QSS has this supported, but I haven't had time to check it out yet. 

I always get warnings when I try to get QSS. 

the website? It's fine FYI.

http://triptohell.info/moodles/qss/ 

j/k i get the same warnings, idk what windows doesn't like about qss, it is annoying. 

more info re: hud

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61351&start=142 

Yeah, getting a virus warning from that. From the zip as well. Wonder why that is exactly. I reckon it is some funky code which gets picked up by heuristics? 

How hard would it be to get temporal dithering, similar to that of Inside, into a quake engine?

The banding that the fog generates, esp in dark areas is pretty harsh. With good temporal dithering, that is limited to the fogged areas, things would look a lot nicer. Obvs this is not important as it is not a gameplay thing at all, but it would be neat. 

Also, thanks Kinn for the hud linkage :) 

The main roadblock for Quakespasm is the renderer is not fully converted to shaders; mdl and lightmapped faces are, but water, sprites, sky and anything else are still using fixed-function OpenGL.

Dumping some links on dithering I found:
http://loopit.dk/banding_in_games.pdf
https://www.shadertoy.com/view/MslGR8 

Ah, I see.

Here's a good talk about what they did in Inside here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdN06E6Xn9E

I also think they gave away the plugin, or whatever they wrote for Unity to do this stuff for free. Not that that would help a lot with QS. 

 

On any hardware from the past 15 or so years, fixed function OpenGL no longer exists: it's emulated with shaders in the driver.

Maybe "fixed function is faster" was true in the GeForce FX era, but time and technology have both seriously moved on since then. 

Aside from being unable to get an accurate weapon view like winquake/mark_v I think the features here are almost perfect.

r_scale, cl_sidespeed etc fix any minor gripes I've had.

Any ideas if this will be fixed outside of scr_ofsz -2 would be good. 

What about r_viewmodel_quake regarding the weapon position. Setting that to 1 does the job pretty good I think.

I personally really would like the oldschool underwater effect in QS, but yeah, shaders, etc.

That and a way to actually have accurate colormap lighting rendition, because a lot of older levels do look a lot better with the harsher lighting, imo at least. 

Yep r_viewmodel_quake should do the trick.

btw check out the >60Hz monitor support in QSS if you haven't http://triptohell.info/moodles/qss/ - host_maxfps 0 means unlimited, and it keeps physics running at 72fps.

btw thanks for that video ptoing, when I get back into engine coding I'd like to do more with shaders, and the temporal dithering sounds like a cool project. 

Cool :D Would love to see how that looks if properly implemented. I think it would be very nice :) 

ptoing, if Vulkan is an option for you vkQuake solves the banding issues by using 10 bit frame buffer precision. 

Please note that this bug occured in my IRC fork of 0.93.0

I just got a: "TexMgr_ReloadImage: Invalid source for player_0"

Error occurred in the middle of a game whilst quickloading and quicksaving a lot, also while recording demos.

This bug caused the save file list to disappear, it also caused loading saves from disk to fail.

video of failure: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/280904822