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Well it seems that I've been reading old news/posts since I have been under the impression that GTKRadiant doesn't natively support Q and that you have to tweak it to make it support it.
However I'll stick with WC for now - at least with the map I'm doing now. I have previous experience with GTKRadiant but not anything serious with WC so I need the experience. But anyways if the shareware version really has a brush limit then I really need the registered version in case someone knows where it is or can send it to me at mikko.sandt@satabaana.net. Also I still would like to know that will the custom textures vanish if I switch from shareware to registered? My level is so far covered with IKBase textures - would I lose them during the switch? they're just textures, after all, and not really connected to the program at all, wc just reads the textures.
you should be fine. What happened to your tutorials on converting Terragen worlds into skyboxes: your old site links are dead and I can't see it on your new site?
Does anyone here have any troublesome maps? I'm particularly intersted in ones with clipping problems (terrain maps would be interesting) or ones where you have a leak, but the pointfile seems to pass straight through a solid brush. I've made some progress with qbsp, but I need some more real-world test maps.
If you're willing, please email zipped tyrann - at - disenchant - dot - net For the time being, I'll sniff around and see what's available for download from people's sites... If I remember, there's a leak in hull 1 or 2 in RPGSP1. I'm not sure if that's the sort of thing your new QBSP might fix.
AFAIK, all my other Q1 maps are pretty free of errors. RPGSP1 source: http://rpg.spawnpoint.org/files/maps/rpgsp1source.zip Yup, no more leak. 8)
It's looking promising. Does anybody have a link to CZG's scraps listed here (the links all give 404s): http://www.planetquake.com/greyvoid/maps.html http://www.planetquake.com/necros/temp/all-maps.zip
the original archive. (no text files) In Gtk 1.4, there's an option to apply "make detail" to a brush. aperently this helps to lower r_speeds. Can i apply this to a Q1 map?
make detail is not used in Quake, but you can do other things like make it a func_wall etc, but I think you must be a bit carefull not to go overboard with the amount of them you use. Plus you should be careful, because func_wall does not block vis. (I think) But someone else who can explain it better than I will come along. But in short, No to Detail Brushes in Quake
Thanks Necros. I'll run some test on these today. aguirRe has also done some testing now and there's a few things I'll need to follow up from there.
Well I got the full version from VoreLord (big thanks) and the switch was simple & painless.
One thing: I have to set up the directories & settings every time I open the program. It just won't save the changes or something. I didn't have this problem with the shareware version. Second: What does "WARNING: brush with duplicate plane" mean? Take a look at aguirRe's Q1 Tool Tips at
http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k/tooltips.txt The short answer in this document is: "Brush with duplicate plane on line x" Non-critical since the reported brush faces are skipped. Usually caused by an editor error. But there are many other cool informations and advices about tools problems, and how to avid them... If you're using worldcraft, usually loading the
My door is off-grid in my map. In GTK it's lined up perfectly, with Lip of "0", but when I compile it moves and stops like it has a Lip of "0.5" I've tried setting it to have Lips of 1, 2 and 4, but they're always off.
I'm not sure why this happens, it was working fine in earlier versions and only started recently. It's for the Lost Chapters mod, but I've had this problem before when I worked in Hammer, but I'm not sure how I fixed it there either. Any solutions, or should I remake the door? when lip is '0', the code actually defaults to lip '8'.
the only real solution (barring code changes) is to make the door 1 unit taller than it should be then set the lip to 1. Well I don't but this seems pretty critical. This is what I get when I try to compile: "The file d:\games\quake\id1\maps\jatkuu.bsp was not built. Do you want to continue?"
If I click 'yes' it just prints the following in the compile window: ----------------------------------------------- ** Executing... ** Command: Copy File ** Parameters: "D:\WORLDC~2\RMF\JATKUU.map" "D:\games\QUAKE\ID1\maps\JATKUU.map" ** Executing... ** Command: D:\worldcraftFULL\Q1Tools\QBSP.EXE ** Parameters: D:\games\QUAKE\ID1\maps\JATKUU outputfile: D:\games\QUAKE\ID1\maps\JATKUU.bsp WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush with duplicate plane WARNING: brush plane with no normal ************ ERROR ************ Line 4478 is incomplete ** Executing... ** Command: D:\worldcraftFULL\Q1Tools\LIGHT.EXE ** Parameters: -extra D:\games\QUAKE\ID1\maps\JATKUU ----- LightFaces ---- extra sampling enabled ************ ERROR ************ Error opening D:\games\QUAKE\ID1\maps\JATKUU.bsp: No such file or directory ** Executing... ** Command: D:\worldcraftFULL\Q1Tools\Vis.exe ** Parameters: D:\games\QUAKE\ID1\maps\JATKUU ---- vis ---- ************ ERROR ************ Error opening D:\games\QUAKE\ID1\maps\JATKUU.bsp: No such file or directory ----------------------------------------------- So no BSP is created - I can't play it. Even the old bsp with the same name disappeared along with this problem. Any suggestions? that is what I would recommend doing.
Open up the map in a text editor. I would bet you a donut that 4478 is the last line in the text and it is lacking a '}' to encapsulate the worldspawn entity. ...the six milllion 'brush with duplicate plane' errors aren't a problem, but that 'brush with no normal' error at the end is AFAIK a compile breaker. Fix that brush and you should be right.
So I just have to find the brush first. Could it be a cylinder I created? The error occured for the first time a bit after I had created the level's first cylinder brush.
but MapSpy might be able to find the bad brush. It's designed for Q2, but it's also great for finding BSP problems in maps for all Q-engine games.
http://mapspy.gamedesign.net/ Any idea what this is?
---- Vis 2.29 ---- Modified by Bengt Jardrup File: E:\Games\QUAKE\ID1\maps\opstart.bsp 166 portalleafs 645 numportals State file out of date, will be overwritten testlevel = 4 Using Bengt's latest tools, have checked the Tool Tips txt, doesn't say anything regarding this. it took 28 seconds to VIS a real small room on full, which is I thought was odd. is when the vis save is out of date w/relation to the bsp file.
usually happens when you compile a map again and the statefile for the vis processing is out of date. you can safely ignore this.
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