you have a point there... :) 

That stuff looks tasty. But I have a rebuttal: Valve has doen a really nice job in that dept. with HL2. 

but stalker and this new game just have a lot more grit and grime, hmm perhaps its just the 3d engine they are using but half-life 2 looked a bit to shiney at times and it detracted from the run-down look of everything in places. 

HL2 Art Director was Viktor Antonov from ex-USSR ( http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,10802/
)

Metro 230 is being made by the same people who worked on Stalker. 

I did a little digging and came across a free Quicktime panoramic/VR tool that'll take an image and make it into a pannable .MOV to embed. Here's a tutorial and link:

http://www.panoguide.com/howto/display/gocubic.jsp
Alt: http://www.panoramas.dk/quicktime/gocubic.zip

And here is my attempt - I did NOT know what I was doing, I just took like 5 screenshots of a map by turning right in intervals and stitched 'em together. But it works:

http://www.faqtion.org/phait/pan.html

I also found more utilities that I have not yet tried. But I thought I'd have to spend money on official VR tools to do this, and I don't. I think this would be great for screenshots!

http://www.ptgui.com/
http://www.pano2qtvr.com/
http://www.panoshow.com/panocube.htm
http://panotools.sourceforge.net/ 

Everyone, go get the Raising the Bar HL2 book, and gawk at his concept art. 

yes, it rocks! 

Friction tried this a while ago and got a few of us into it:

http://lunaran.com/images/screens/lun3dm4_pan.jpg

I have others, but they're not on my site, and I'm at work. 

does anyone still have the panoramas I made for concrete dreams or derelict? I seem to have lost them in a hard drive failure. 

While that'd do as a source image, it's not the best representation for a map a- because of the curving. Unless viewers knew that panoramic images (depending how they were shot) naturally curve, they'd be thinking "my what a curvy map!".

Here be ye: http://www.faqtion.org/phait/lun3dm4.mov 

Some pics for us without the book: http://www.vulkanbros.com/ 

... of my current project that uses Doom3 texture sets I presented during QExpo (it is the same map btw)

http://lambert.jeanphilippe.free.fr/Screenshots/BTH1.JPG
http://lambert.jeanphilippe.free.fr/Screenshots/BTH2.JPG

What do you think ? Would it be suitable for the Xmas Base Pack ? 

wow you have come a long way since your 1st map!

The doom 3 textures actually look ok in Quake 1, you seem to have done a good job on the conversion.

I like the 1st screenshot, very dark and atmospheric, 2nd is ok but is too bright imo. 

I want it. I think that it would work fine in the base pack - but I have no swaying power over the internet. at least not with adults...
sm theme suggestion - jailbait. 

In first screenshots, there is flickering light in "cage" above the stairs... it is not so dark in fact...
Anyway, thanks for the comments ;P 

The ceiling texture on the second shot looks very bad. The rest is very nice! 

I cant see much at all on 1st pic
2nd is OK, dark still

d3 tex look all wrong
ceiling/floor in particular 

that QT pano is pretty shibby. :)

Although, the shot wasn't 360� - it only goes through about 210�, so it technically shouldn't wrap.


and, JPL -

why are all those textures lit from underneath? are they upside down?

uh ... you didn't make them that way, did you? The green channel of a normal map goes from black for up-facing to white for down-facing ... 

No, they are not upside down... I just "missed" the darkness / light position. Thanks for the comments. 

i really like the doom3 textures. i hope more people use them in Q1 maps. 

UWF: I'm currently working on a map that use Doom3 texture only... It is a kind of Doom3 "remake" (title, story, etc.... you'll discover later) and I still have a lot of work before finishing the map, so you'll also have to wait some months I guess, before reviewing the map ;P

Lunaran: Well, after your comment, I checked the Doom3 texture set I converted into Quake wad format, and I have to admit that many of the textures already have "pre-implemented" shadow zones... I'm aware it limits texture placement vs light position, but I think it is manageable with some creativity.. Globally it comes from the 3D-FX files from original Doom3 texture set I used to create the relief effect: I used some grey conversion and brightness/contrast modifications in order to give more relief to the final texture, using transparent overlapping... maybe too much... 

~all q1 textures have preimplemented light directions, since there's no bumpmapping in q1.
You just have to make sure it's top-down. 

sounds intriguing,

.. It is a kind of Doom3 "remake" (title, story, etc.... you'll discover later)

Given the size of the Doom3 levels you may be able to fit an entire remake in one map! 

I didn't say it will be a signal map... ;)