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Posted by skacky on 2015/04/29 18:49:48 |
The third Retro Jam is available! The theme was "Vertical Metal/Runic". This pack contains two devilish Runic maps ripe for carnage, made in a few days by FifthElephant and skacky.
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Awesome Maps!
A handful of demos
Utterly loved how <vertical|insane> <skacky|Fifth>'s map was. Nearly got 100%, too, but one secret eluded me.
#2 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/04/29 19:52:55
These need to be advertised better ... I was barely aware this was going on.
Dirac's Brackets...
#3 posted by Barnak on 2015/04/29 19:58:55
Hey onetruething, are you trying to calculate some scalar products ?
If |vertical> = |insane> are normalized eigenstates of Quake, then :
<vertical|insane> = 1,
and
<skacky|Fifth> = 0 since |skacky> and |Fifth> are two orthogonal states !
Hehehee..
Wow !
#4 posted by Barnak on 2015/04/29 21:35:36
Two superb maps. Thanks guys, these are real Quake maps !
Sadly, the start sucks. This pack need a decent start map with a metal style to fit the maps.
Aww Yea
#5 posted by Breezeep_ on 2015/04/29 21:50:25
Yey
#6 posted by Vondur on 2015/04/29 23:36:20
just played skaky's map, here's first run
http://vondur.net/files/vrj3.7z
cool map! proper oldskool vibe :)
Awesome
#7 posted by PuLSaR on 2015/04/29 23:37:50
This was a suprise. I would have participated in it if I knew about it.
Awesome maps. Runic never gets old.
Yey2
#8 posted by Vondur on 2015/04/29 23:52:30
first fail attempt to beat fifth's map. too much random monsters make this map rather deadly.
http://vondur.net/files/vrj3.7z
ps. if chrome says that my site is dangerous, ignore it, click button 'details' and then 'visit the site' link.
Cool!
#9 posted by DaZ on 2015/04/30 00:49:03
I messed up and didn't record demos so you will have to make do with teh tube of you's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apwIV67cafA
Retrojam3_fifth : It had an over reliance on teleported enemies which made combat difficult to anticipate and plan for. It can be ok in small doses but in this map it felt like every fight was a teleport fest.
Some nice designs in areas, reminded me a lot of your jam4 map (less red :D). Final combat was pretty cool. Found all secrets because I am a boss!
retrojam3_skacky : holy look up/down batman. Crazy verticality which was amazing to see. Fun combat for the most part and a lovely quad run mid way through. I think I found 3 or 4 out of 7 secrets. I ended up trying to shoot all the yellow light fittings after finding the secret in one of them :)
I loved the final arena. It was really fun using the other enemies in the area as shields against the vore balls. Top stuff from the French man!
Daz,
thanks for the vid. I watched SlapMap's vid too (he posted on twitter I think).
I definitely felt the time constraints on this one, I wanted some big gameplay ideas going in and I didn't want the map to feel too half arsed in that respect. I set up a bunch of set piece fights knowing I was going to end up teleporting a lot of monsters. It doesn't help that the map is open-plan so if I had monsters on patrol or in set places I know that I may have ended up with either too few enemies or a room which will aggro all at once.
The map feels way too linear, the open go-anywhere-gameplay in my jam 4 map was definitely a strong point. Also I didn't have time to do proper secrets either.
All in all I am happy with what I did in the time I did it but I will admit that it could have been a much better map if I had play-tested or made some different decisions.
Rerelease
#11 posted by Drew on 2015/04/30 04:59:19
!!'
#12 posted by AAS on 2015/04/30 09:51:55
> made in a few days
insane, it took an hour for me to make few boxes, connect them and put monsters there :/
Fifth's looks and feels right but is too narrow in a sense of path planning to my taste, and monsters spawning in front of player don't make things better.
Skacky's map is a meaty impressive masterpiece, with nice balance between the old boxy maps and new detailed as shit ones.
Demos: https://nekaka.com/d/0UlrUXPsA7
(Sorry Fifth, only second run, I forgot to make a demo after install rush.)
Demos.
#13 posted by Shambler on 2015/04/30 12:25:26
Great Work!
#14 posted by ericw on 2015/04/30 20:32:57
Amazing what you guys did in a weekend + a day or two.
Bad, reckless skill 3 demos, but I had fun with them, will probably return for another more thorough playthrough on skill 1 or 2.
http://quaketastic.com/files/demos/retrojam3_ericw_demos.zip
Fifth, I like the touch in yours of the mega that spawns the shambler!
#15 posted by negke on 2015/04/30 22:21:23
Guys, can you please STOP INCLUDING THAT FUCKING QUAKE.RC in jam packs??? Also, why are the texts hidden inside the pak?!
skacky is a massive dick for being able to make such a big, intricate and detailed map in just three days. It looks great and was quite fun, though would have needed some better signposting around the windtunnel bit - suddenly the (admittedly high-quality) sameyness makes it confusing to know how to progress if one misses the cue. Good secrets. Too sock'ish with the altars...
Fifth's map has a nice style, but I didn't find the gameplay to be much fun for the most part. An over-reliance on teleports and arena setups, and most importantly a severe lack of ammo. The quad fight was great, though.
Demos
1st Play Of Skackys Map
Start Map...
#17 posted by Barnak on 2015/05/01 03:02:09
I replayed the maps, and guys, please, add a fucking start map.
And both maps should be linked : once you finish a map, it should load the second one. Having to load a map from the console just sucks.
You mappers are neglecting the start maps. They are adding a lot to the Quake experience and atmosphere, especially if they do have some puzzles to solve, secrets and mysteries, traps, etc.
Start maps are like preliminaries in sex ! You guys are going directly to the Quake penetration, without preparation. WTF !
Skacky's map is really amazing. That's the style of Quake maps that I love ! So out of this world.
#18 posted by Joel B on 2015/05/01 09:09:11
Eh, it's a weekend "jam". Cut them some slack. :-)
#19 posted by Spirit on 2015/05/01 10:44:44
Not for the quake.rc though, not for the quake.rc.
#20 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/05/01 10:55:45
"Eh, it's a weekend "jam". Cut them some slack. :-) "
Seriously. Be grateful you get anything. :)
Start Map.
#21 posted by Shambler on 2015/05/01 11:49:09
Yeah, because start maps really make the other maps worthwhile. The gameplay, the flow, the harmony, the visceral excitement of choosing a skill setting. Truly the epitome of thrilling Quake action. I really don't know how we've survived all those decades of dismal Quake custom maps that would have been brilliant if only they'd had a fucking start map tagged on the front of them.
Barnak you are a moron. Please be quiet before you embarass yourself even more.
#22 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/05/01 13:06:34
Or, you know, take over making the start maps for these map jams. Sounds like a job you're passionate about. :)
Start Maps = Theme For The Next Map Jam!
#23 posted by negke on 2015/05/01 13:15:20
#24 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/05/01 13:22:11
Oh, I LIKE that idea ... that would be fun.
Has to link to the original id episodes and function as a proper start map, including the entrance to shub's lair.
Announcing RetroJam 3 DLC!
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