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#2383 posted by aguirRe on 2004/08/16 06:23:08
Have you received my email reply as of today? All my accounts seems to refuse to send it to you for unknown reasons.
 AguirRe
#2384 posted by Kinn on 2004/08/16 08:04:03
I haven't received it - hotmail tends to randomly bounce emails for no reason from time to time.
However, you can now send stuff to my original email address, as I have set up the account on my crappy computer.
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#2385 posted by aguirRe on 2004/08/16 08:58:49
I've now managed to send [at least] one to each address, let's hope you get one of them.
Btw, I haven't been able to reproduce the abort you mentioned, no matter what I do.
I've uploaded yet a bit newer variant of WQ 1.22 to the same address as before. Please see if you still can reproduce the abort.
 Mail Sent
#2386 posted by Kinn on 2004/08/16 09:24:00
I'll have a gander at the new WQ 1.22 :)
 Guys
#2387 posted by inertia on 2004/08/17 13:51:43
q1 is dead, as this board proves :\/
 Q1 Is Dead?
#2388 posted by VoreLord on 2004/08/18 02:48:14
There isn't even a game called "q1", or "Quake 1" for that matter, There is however, games called "Quake", "Quake II", and "Quake III Arena", (plus mission packs of course".
All of which are still showing signs of life, As this board proves
#2389 posted by truskoski on 2004/08/18 06:23:03
wasnt quake2 a game on its own that had nothing to do with quake1? i remember reading the planetquake fuck and they said something like this. and if its true, i wish they had named it differntly.
hell yes
 Kinn
#2390 posted by aguirRe on 2004/08/18 08:54:26
You wrote above "Mail Sent", should I assume that you really meant "Mail Received" and that you haven't yet replied to me?
 AguirRe
#2391 posted by Kinn on 2004/08/18 09:38:55
No, i did send an email on the 16th, but i'll resend :)
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#2392 posted by R.P.G. on 2004/08/18 10:01:59
wasnt quake2 a game on its own that had nothing to do with quake1? i remember reading the planetquake fuck and they said something like this. and if its true, i wish they had named it differntly.
I seem to recall some id guy saying in a .plan that they originally wanted to name it "Wor", but that may have violated someone's trademark so they went with "Quake II". I couldn't find the original .plan though, so I have no source to back up my assertion.
 RPG
#2393 posted by Kell on 2004/08/18 12:23:17
you have no source to back up your ass
 Kell
#2394 posted by aguirRe on 2004/08/18 15:20:12
Fullvis of terrain map is finally done after almost 161 hours. Your original estimation of one week was pretty accurate. Now we at least have a reference for improvements.
 AguiRe
#2395 posted by Kell on 2004/08/18 15:24:09
Excellent. Thanks :)
How's the framrate now it's vised...? ( dare I ask )
 Aguire
is there anyway you could add these features to your glquake version?
1- gl_clear defaulting to 1, with same grey void color (or at least ability to change it?)
2- in noclip mode, having flymode movement instead of just walking on the plane you are on when you issue the 'noclip' command.
I only ask because most of these I use in fitzquake to debug/leakhunt maps in development, but as I'm working on sm82 its huge visdata crashes most all other engines, so I have been using your glquake.
I've also always thought it would be cool if there was a command that flew the player through the path of the pointfile in order to better hunt down leaks, etc.
Anyways, just some ideas.
 Kell
#2397 posted by aguirRe on 2004/08/18 16:21:25
This is an extract from the vis.log:
average leafs visible: 819
max leafs visible: 2198 near (1792 -538 1120)
c_chains: 2193464855
visdatasize: 483 kb compressed from 807 kb
Session time : 160h 44m
Fps depends on the player's system, I didn't have any problems even before vis. What's maybe more interesting is to use the r_draworder cvar of WinQuake to see how far the engine see, especially over rocks. It appears to me that pulling down sky should help in this map.
 Ray
#2398 posted by aguirRe on 2004/08/18 16:38:42
You can change the value of cvars in your cfg files at startup (or use a key to set god/notarget/gl_clear etc), I can't see any obvious reason to change the default.
Adding r_clearcolor cvar like WinQuake I can look into (if it's reasonably easy to implement). I actually prefer the bright red; I haven't found any better for leak/HOM hunting.
The noclip behaviour is absolutely my preference, I never liked the Q2 variant. Again, I can see if it's easy to add this alternative (like FQ).
Auto-flying through leak trail sounds a bit esoteric ...
Thanks for the suggestions.
 Aguire:
#2399 posted by Jago on 2004/08/18 17:21:51
"The noclip behaviour is absolutely my preference, I never liked the Q2 variant."
You like being stuck at the same height when noclipping? Why?
 Notray:
#2400 posted by necros on 2004/08/18 17:22:27
if you use gtkr, you can just load the .pts file as a .lin file in the editor to fix leaks.
 Ray
#2401 posted by aguirRe on 2004/08/18 18:08:18
If I haven't screwed up the basic CnP job from FQ, r_clearcolor (GL: default 251 = bright red, Win: default 2 = dark grey) and sv_altnoclip (default 0) are now in and seem to be working in both engines.
Jago: Well, for me it's easier to move in noclip like that. If I want to slide up or down at the same time, I just press D/C (swim up/down) as usual.
 AguirRe
#2402 posted by JPL on 2004/08/19 02:50:25
average leafs visible: 819
max leafs visible: 2198 near (1792 -538 1120)
c_chains: 2193464855
visdatasize: 483 kb compressed from 807 kb
Session time : 160h 44m
Hello, I have a similar message after a fast vis process for my last map, and it's the first time I see this... Is it a real problem, or simply an information message ??? I'm able to run FitzQuake without any HOM/leak problems, and all seems to work correctly, so what must I do (if there's something to do) ???
Thanks...
 The Above Info
#2403 posted by aguirRe on 2004/08/19 05:22:58
is just statistics about the vis run. If you get warnings or errors in your vis printout, either show it here or send it to me and I'll take a look at it.
 AguirRe
#2404 posted by JPL on 2004/08/19 05:33:35
I've no warnings/error (thanks to the Lord) during any process, and the above informations appeared after a "long" fastvis process... It appeared yesterday night, so I was a little confused seeing these messages...
Well, it's not a real problem in your opinion... anyway, thank you for your help...
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#2405 posted by truskoski on 2004/08/19 21:44:39
wor? hehe. it would have nice it they had used stroggos or something. im still sad about it them using quake2. but then, there is gonna be a quake4! fuck yes!
 How Did That Rule Go?
#2406 posted by pushplay on 2004/08/19 22:23:16
The even numbered Quakes suck?
 D3 Mapping
#2407 posted by necros on 2004/08/20 00:52:30
um... this may seem like a stupid question, but how does one map for d3 with gtkradiant, and not the built in gtk/qeradiant version in d3?
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