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@mugwump 
You should try studying them in TB if you can get your hands on the .map files.

Yep, but I'd have to remember where I saw a power-up floating like that, recall the map name, check my HD for the map source... see where I am going with this? I've played hundreds maybe thousands of maps. There's one really good example from about 2 years ago but I don't recall the name of the map. :p I experiment before posting questions for the most part. 
@megaman 
why 3 trigger onces and not a single trigger with two trigger relays? 
Shamblernaut 
Can you explain how? Because I read trigger relay documentation several times and didn`t understand yet. 
 
Trigger Once-> Trigger relays

Trigger relay....delay....target1
Trigger relay....delay....target2
Trigger relay.target3
Etc.

Use logic gates for disableable targets, see here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/tomeofpreach.wordpress.com/2017/02/14/logic-gates-for-2017/amp/ 
Thanks! :D 
 
 
Having Problems With Quake Mapping [EDIT]
Posted by Denied [85.230.20.52] on 2017/07/05 15:28:44
I can't compile my map with necro's compiling gui.

These are my settings:

Source Map: E:q1mapsquake_wiseau.map

Quake Engine: E:darkplacesquakespasm-0.92.1_win64quakespasm.exe

Tools folder: E:tyrutils-0.15-win32

Working Folder: E:q1maps

Output Folder: E:darkplacesquakespasm-0.92.1_win64Id1maps

These are the errors:

Copying Files...
The file cannot be copied onto itself.
0 file(s) copied.
Converting map...
--------------QBSP--------------
'E:tyrutils-0.15-win32qbsp.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
--------------VIS---------------
'E:tyrutils-0.15-win32vis.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
-------------LIGHT--------------
'E:tyrutils-0.15-win32light.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
Det går inte att hitta filen.
Det går inte att hitta filen.
Det går inte att hitta filen.
(Swedish for "Could not find the file.") 
@Denied 
There are so many things that could be wrong here. There is obviously something wrong with the path to your executables. I am wondering if you correctly installed these. You have set up the folder as E:tyrutils... Do you have the tyrutil exes in this folder? Are they extracted or still zipped? Did you forget to put the backslash in the path name.

You must have qbsp.exe, vis.exe, and light.exe correctly installed in the path folder or nothing will work. 
#Redfield 
I posted this in the now "closed" thread.

The forum strips out single backslashes

Ex: E:\quake\id1\maps

You have to "double" them up to get the correct path to display, hence...

E:\\quake\\id1\\maps

Since it was simply a copy and paste of the error message I assume the paths had separators. 
Hrmm... 
Strange, I think the copy and paste of my own post in the original thread changed it somehow! Oh well.

You can verify by previewing your post before submitting. 
GUI Is Good 
I used the GUI to make compiling my first map quick and easy. I'm not sure what is going on with this case. Assuming the backslash issue is not a problem, I'm going to guess by Ockham's razor that the executables aren't even installed in the folder, or there is some kind of typo. 
 
Maybe there's something wrong here?

Output Folder: E:darkplacesquakespasm-0.92.1_win64Id1maps

Having both DP and QS in the same path seems odd to me. 
 
How do you get lights to face upside down or sideways like in Digs' SM177 entry? 
@lpowell 
set "angles" "0 0 0" 
Speaking Of Lights 
Am I somehow messing something up, or do light entities with negative light values assigned not work at all when also given a targetname (to make them toggleable)? 
That's Normal. 
different targetname = different lightstyle = different lightmap = lighting gets clamped and the negatives are ignored.

so yeah, negative lights only really work if you're not using switched/animated lights nearby, on account of the bsp format itself not supporting it. 
#18648 
Thanks for the tip!

Actually, setting the key that way still makes a right-side-up light, but I figured the three numbers correspond to x-y-z axis rotations. That was exactly what I needed. Cool! 
You Can Also 
Set the target of a light to be the targetname of an object that you want the light to point to, such as an info_null. I think that's what info_nulls are for actually. 
 
Yeah, I used some info_nulls with spotlights in my first test map. 
Linefeeds Driving Me Crazy. 
I am trying to insert linefeeds into the textstory messages for my AD map.

Ok so there was a post about this somewhere. I know I need to use backslash n (without space). Func won't display my backslash... I am copying the method directly from socks available .map files. I am typing text backslash n text (no spaces). But in game I get the virtual text backslash n and no line breaks. I am not typing /n by mistake.

I have only had moderate success getting backslash b to make the title bold as well, sometimes the slash is in the message sometimes not. Is my keyboard broken? Is this a Trenchbroom 2.0 bug? I can type backslash in all programs fine. Please help me. 
@redfield 
I assume you are checking the actual .map file as well? Are you sure it's carrying over from TB2 to the .map? 
 
I believe the issue lies with TB not handling backslashes properly 
 
I believe the issue lies with TB not handling backslashes properly

Working with vanilla Quake I've had no issues.

In Quake

In Tb2 rc4

Here's a tiny test map made this a.m. So vanilla works fine. 
What Is Going On... 
Ok so I've looked at my .map in JACK, All of my backslashes have become double backslashes. Why would this be the case? It only appears as a single backslash in TB. I'm having troubles opening the .map in TB now that it has been edited in JACK (I have a backup though).

I see that dumptruck_ds is able to get linefeeds to work in TB fine. Is this some kind of keyboard settings glitch? 
Tb Version 
Redfield, i think this is fixed in tb2 rc4, im guessing you are running a previous build 
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