You know people have been putting that in their readmes since the days of Quake. Some people just like to build high-poly stuff, and there probably isn't too much he can do to comprimise r_speeds without the looks taking a serious hit.

Nehahra, for example, might have caused a slowdown for some on lower end machines, but would it be prudent to accuse them of laziness just to cater to the minority of people?

Unless Creutzenberg means that we need an X850 512MB to play the map, it's not really fair to say that he isn't doing his job as a mapper, just because the r_speeds are a little higher than normal.

fake edit: I see Kinn basically said the same thing in far fewer lines. He will receive a gold star for the day. 

I was about to make the same statements Lun made. Thanks Lun for being a witch instead of me! 

People have been doing it a long time--czg himself with czg07--and if someone wants to map that way, let him.

However, having said that, poor optimizations (if they exist) and making something that is only playable by a small portion of the potential audience should be the foremost concern of all designers. 

... how's the optimization on sm82 going? 

Mentioning the fact, that a map requires bit more beefy computer than usually tends to make mappers go silly.

I wonder if there is any "I MAKE MY MAPS TO RUN SMOOTHLY ON A SHOEBOX, WHICH IS ALSO MY COMPUTER" factor in it. 

Shoeboxes suck... go map ;) 

Well, your crazy Australian question has misled me and instead of actually answering your question I've typed this otherwise unreasonable response. 

You five posts ago: Nehahra, for example, might have caused a slowdown for some on lower end machines, but would it be prudent to accuse them of laziness just to cater to the minority of people?

Me five posts before that: Yeah, well, Quake wasn't released six months ago.  

good point friction

btw gf4 was obsolete even at the time of doom3 release (if not before)

increasing load on the PC is fine if its justified by the enhanced visuals (or features)

Lun must be calmed down 

http://www.kolumbus.fi/ville.nieminen/Arc.jpg 

looking forward to this (kinda, it is doom 3 after all :( ) 

doom3 rockes!
(just set g_kicktime "0") 

doom3 rockes!
(just set g_kicktime "0") 

http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/babke2.jpg 

Shame on you, there is no merit to fight with an old woman... doh !!! 

But what if she's possessed by Cthulhu? Is there merit to kill her then? 

what is that?
i don't recognize it. 

from Crime and Punishment 

Oh, if she's possessed by Cthulu, I have to apologize... Let's kill all Hell's gran'Ma ;) 

Is the moneylender wearing a vinyl vest? 

Accept no substitutes!

http://www.kolumbus.fi/ville.nieminen/thingy.jpg 

http://www.chimpans.se/ip/

I and a friend called Fjoggs are making this, its of course a WIP. Its a 2vs2 for quake 3 CPMA.

Btw, very nice engine there Friction. 

Being a WIP, I won't point out that some halls look kinda bland, cuz I figure you guys will fix that. But looks quality so far, gl with it. 

Some interesting textures there - some look almost kothic-ish. Where are they from? 

flamel by http://www.planetunreal.com/undulation/
(ut textures) if anyone wants them in jpg, just ask.

And then some textures by www.badmeat.com mixed from all over his maps.

I love kothic, but its a very narrow set, I would like a follow up someday :D