-dist does it means like fades in dark like fog, or does it mean it shortens lights?

what about -threads, how do you use it? 

I can see the enemies a bit now, and the surfaces near the lights, so it is better. Hard to say for sure if it's enough without actually seeing it in game.

Threads I've always just set to however many cores the processor has. Don't know about -dist, sounds like some kind of attenuation, so shortens maybe is close.

For some reason -softdist doesn't work in tyrutils. Without it there are places in my map where the lighting changes noticeably, which is why I keep using the older version. 

Second version looks fine. 

remember that those enemies will be in black and white for the final version. To preview it follow the procedure in post 133. 

Don't worry, if I remember correctly screenshots are darker than actual gameplay, it should be bright enough for most of screen.. should be. I used lowest brightness settings I managed to pull off on my computer, and even Quakespasm I drop down contrast and saturation to minimun 1 or something and was still able to play it. So now I'm only afraid, am I making it too bright, will it lost all the creepy atmosphere* 

If I extend this by a week are we likely to get more submissions? 

I was discussing on #TF and the idea came up of fullbrighting some of the projectile models so that you can see them easier. How do you guys feel about this? 

Since the final pack will release with a palette, is there any point using desaturated wads to edit with? Any texture is now fair game? 

I loaded a map with a non-indexed texture, it was coloured. Any indexed texture should be fine though.

It's actually pretty fun to play vanilla quakle with the desaturated palette FWIW. 

1) Roll call: even with a one-week delay, I doubt I'll get something playable by then.
2) Fullbright projectiles: can't tell, haven't tested any combat yet.
3) Palette: I suspect this is gonna be a problem with my custom blue and red pair of rotfish. Will it apply to every map regardless of whether we used it when building our map? 

Oh well.

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/jam8_ionousB.jpg

Just have to build central structure. Sick of building rocks. I might be done by the original deadline. If not, then extra time would be appreciated. 

I have spend more time on gameplay.. 2-4 minutes of gameplay in area I have been shown, then there is other streets sections and short sewar section but I have no idea how to combine all of these separate parts yet or do I need to rebuild some of the areas to match the style of map. If everything goes well there will at least 15 minutes of gameplay.. if everything need to be crushed to the deadline.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwxYkKdSD855OU96R1J0eHdBaWM/view?usp=sharing 

I'm thinking about trying stuff out for this, but since I'm starting now I highly doubt it'll be either good or ready in time. Question, though. Do I need to use desaturated textures if we've all agreed to the palette? I think using the originals seems to preserve some more detail in greyscale via palette than a direct recolour. 

If you just use the palette then yes, the game will render mostly in B&W and use vanilla indexed textures you will be fine.

As soon as you deviate away from the vanilla textures you will probably need to desaturate them using the palette I provided. 

Well, so far all the textures I've used have been fine with just the palette (Kingpin ones, the originals) but i'll keep an eye out for any issues. It's not like it's hard to swap them out when building the final map anyway, it's just more pleasant to work with a bit of colour for my poor, tired eyes. 

What have you people been doing about the scale of the kingpin textures (if you're using them)? They're totally out of proportion for Quake, a door handle is at head height most of the time. Do you just ignore it? That's all I can think to do, seeing as scaling them to half size would make things unusable. (The doors may be too tall, but they're not too wide... in fact, they could almost be too narrow :s 

yeah, I'm just ignoring it. It's quakeguy's fault for being a dwarf anyway. 

In Trenchbroom you can specify different scale values for x and y axis.
On narrowness: are you sure these textures are not for double doors? 

 

In the kingpin textures the double door textures are pretty obvious, since they're both doors on one texture vs. a single door. The door i'm using at the moment has dimensions of 64x128, which makes it a LOT taller than it is wide. Double doors are nicer for being wide, but they don't really suit my purposes.

64px width isn't... too bad. Quake movement isn't a big fan of it, but you fit through alright and so do small monsters. 

Not really sure where i'm going with the level layout, but here's some early screens from the starting hallway and of a breakable door.

The doors break in two parts, i'm trying to tweak them so they don't break all at once... kinda hard :/ shotguns do such a variable amount of damage.

Like I said before, I'm not sure how far i'll get with this but it's nice to take a break from my other map to try other stuff. 

Maybe be it is just me, but that looks like old-hospital to me, maybe because the black and white tiles on floor and almost pure white walls. 

Is it fine to use custom free ambient tracks? I didn't found suitable one from original tracks. I needed something that was more "unnoticeable".

I would like to use this, unless someone or I will find better ones : http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Diogenes_In_Hell/Sotto_Voce/diogenes_in_hell_-_Sotto_Voce_-_01_dhia

Something that would suit in hellish Hell on Earth themes yet isolated buildings with technology and pipes, bricks and candles. Zombies.. a lots of zombies. 

Or something from this album maybe : http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Diogenes_In_Hell/On_the_Inheritance_of_Divine_Rites/ 

What music you guys are going to use? Jazz/Dark ambient?