#17052 posted by NewHouse on 2016/09/06 05:24:37
So now on I will immediately suggest using my email for these conversations. Unfortunately the best feedback comes(after some time) when people can talk freely. So I apologise that my language-barrier or wall of text doesn't mean anything to you guys, mostly because it really wasn't targeted to you. I know myself that well, that now on I will jump right into email and will stop responding to messages in here.
#17053 posted by NewHouse on 2016/09/06 06:33:39
Ps. Watch your mouth Kinn. Some new here just wanted to be talkative. Why not talk about this like adults with them. I know people can learn from mistakes, anyway your way of speaking is in many cases quite negative or at least it sounds like it.
"Interesting Lack Of Radiant Use"
#17054 posted by Mugwump on 2016/09/06 12:39:57
Well that was just a few examples, I'm sure we can find maps made using Radiant. Not every readme has this kind of details, though.
#17055 posted by NewHouse on 2016/09/06 13:14:12
But yeah, Mugwump if you want to chat more about something here is my one email mikkou9 ( at ) gmail ( dot ) com
Max Efrags
#17058 posted by madfox on 2016/09/06 22:41:05
I thought I had max edicts, this is new for me.
What�s going on, to much Efrags=
Found It
#17059 posted by madfox on 2016/09/06 22:48:08
caused by having entities (typically torches) too close to oreven partly inside solid walls.
NewHouse
#17061 posted by Mugwump on 2016/09/08 14:34:04
Noted. I wouldn't give my e-mail openly over the internet like that but I'll send you a mail.
#17062 posted by lpowell on 2016/09/14 09:47:21
Alright, so here's a weird one.
Basically, there's a point (really, a whole vertical plane) in my map that sends you into the void--whether you're "in" the map or not.
It's kind of hard to describe so I uploaded a video:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5ubevjSCiEYZFZlX2VUQzZnN1E
As you can see, if you move away from the blue bridge structure towards the blackness, you pass into the grey void without actually reaching the end of the box--and as I demonstrate later, this happens outside of the map bounds as well. Actually, you're technically taken to the *other* side of the map--as if you'd gone so far in one direction that you looped around to the other (like what happens when you fall through a hole in an unsealed map).
I *don't* think it's because I exceeded normal map size limits (that's what those colored lines are supposed to represent in TrenchBroom, right?). I've already ruled out holes, at least those that BSP can detect, having tracked them all down with pointfiles and removed them. Any ideas?
#17063 posted by PRITCHARD on 2016/09/14 10:37:52
That really does look like hitting up against the hard limits of map size, actually. I'm not aware of any coloured lines in TrenchBroom that represent the bounds of the map, either, just the set that extends out from the origin along the various axes. My advice would be to spawn an entity out there and check its "origin" key values, or use the viewpos command to check the player's own coordinates.
If you're not actually outside the map bounds, i'm totally stumped.
I had this issue when I exceeded the 4000 from origin limit
#17065 posted by lpowell on 2016/09/14 10:55:27
That might be it, although those flames are just past 4000 units from origin (e.g. one of them is at -224 4048 460 according to TB).
The colored lines are visible here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5ubevjSCiEYT1JfRF9SODBjZG8
I thought I read somewhere they extend as far as some (extended) limit but I guess they're just the axes. To be honest, I thought the map size was a bit bigger.
There are bigger maps though, like ORL's Zeangala... how does that work?
Might Leave It In As An "easter Egg"
#17066 posted by lpowell on 2016/09/14 10:58:41
cause it's a super secret area that I doubt many of the ten whole people who will play the map will get to, and they'd fall to their deaths if they jumped from there anyway. :P
Lane
#17067 posted by mjb on 2016/09/14 14:34:24
You could Select ALL and drift the entire map's contents a bit away from the boundary limit.
#17068 posted by metlslime on 2016/09/14 17:23:35
4096 is the actual limit, not 4000.
Arcane Dimensions & Func_rotates
#17069 posted by Newhouse on 2016/09/14 23:31:23
I have been reading ad docs, especially trying to figure out how to make door open in a way.. I can specify origin where door rotates 90 degrees, and probably will just stay open after triggering, because if it spins back after some time "wait", it should notice if it touches players or enemies so it goes back to open..
Noir thmemed map, wooden doors might look stupid if they just moves inside walls.
Arcane Dimensions & Func_rotates..
#17070 posted by Newhouse on 2016/09/14 23:33:47
Sorry typos.. anyway there is multiple options..
'func_rotate_door' + 'info_rotate' might be things I should use?
Lpowell
#17071 posted by Orl on 2016/09/15 01:13:19
You can use sv_protocol 999 console command in the latest Quakespasm, 0.92.0. That expands the quake boundary limit from +-4096 to +-32678. There's no special compiling tools or commands to use either, just set sv_protocol to 999, restart the map, and you should be golden.
#17072 posted by lpowell on 2016/09/15 07:24:21
Thanks ORL! I took Bloughsburgh's advice (thanks!), but that is good to know in case I ever get crazy enough to make a really huge map. (Btw, Cataractnacon/Zeangala is one of my top Quake releases ever! So thanks for that too!)
Lpowell
#17073 posted by Orl on 2016/09/15 18:48:24
Thank you, it makes me happy to hear you enjoyed those maps. Don't be afraid to make some really huge background scenery for your own maps, now that you have the freedom to do so. :)
Func_skip, Func_ignore
#17074 posted by adib on 2016/09/16 14:00:48
Hey guys.
I need a brush entity that will be in the map file, but completely ignored by qbsp. Is there any already?
What about using the skip texture? If I cover a brush with "skip" completely, none of its planes will make it to BSP. But what are the side effects? Any unused remains of data in BSP structure?
Or better put: if I cover a brush with skip texture completely, BSP will be exactly the same as if that brush was never there?
Nope
#17075 posted by Qmaster on 2016/09/16 18:50:58
Skip texture merely skips adding those faces to the visible world model. The brush will syill affect collision, leafs, portals, and brush splitting.
For instance, put a skip wall across a hallway and there will be a line with the hall of mirrors HOM where the brush touches the other walls. Also it will block the player, bullets, line of sight, etc.
Maybe you need func_detail. That makes it such that it ignores that brush for vis leaf generation in qbsp then lumps it in with the world as a normal brush.
Else maybe you need an info_null brush. It would help if you specified your goal.
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