well, i dunno if i'll be able to finish on time... i'm gonna try though. we'll see then.

good luck to everyone else though.

it's too bad to hear that you won't be participating, Fat Controller... 

man...had a cool map. lost of detail! cool textures and brushwork, hell, its my first map! and i couldnt believe how awesome it got to be. so, after one final "polishing" i compile the level, and the screen goes black! i figure, "what the hell, must be working" but it just fucked itself. turn it off after a few hours and nothing! black screen...

...now. a new pc and well. no map. tried to make it all over again, but its just not the same. 

you got a new computer because one of your quake maps crash the game? 

I read that as:

The dog ate my homework... 

no man. the pc fucked up! doesnt work anymore. when i turn it on, its just a black screen with a white line blinking.

got a virus or something. not much of a technical dude so i cant really tell whats wrong. it was an old computer anyway... 

Surprisingly, the dog ate my homework too ! 

In that case, your map is probably still there on the old hdd. Get someone to help you hook it up to the new pc and you should be able to salvage it. 

Is anyone working on a start map for the pak? If so, should I put the name in the "map" field of the trigger changelevel on my map?

Are we going to have custom progs like the other coagula pak (e.g. to remove dead enemies after a short time to improve speed)?

If yes to the progs, can we have it set the r_maxsurfs, r_maxedges variables higher (like czg did for insomnia)? My map will have quite high r_speeds... enough to trigger greyflash in winquake with the defaults. 

I believe there should be a start map and progs.

No, I'm not volunteering. 

Start map: no its not important (to me anyway).

The progs thing couldnt we just use the one from the last coagula pak?

At this point i should probably point out (if you hadnt already guessed!) i am not a mapper, else i would do these things for you guys. 

I think that a start map would be good. It would then draw all the maps together and give them a sort of UI so that you wouldn't have to remember the BSP names. And of course the start map would be named cog2strt or something like that to avoid probs with existing start maps.

Also, please do not require that people have a special progs.dat! I don't think anyone was even thinking about this, though. A progs that would improve the speed, start the next map with just the axe, and bump the values for r_maxsurfs and r_maxedges would be nice. I want to be able to play these maps in QW coop, which is why I say this.

Also, to everyone, please support coop! 

How many attempts I've had since I came here and started this map and they've all been wasted hours/efforts...

Why is the potential that I believe I have not being expressed satisfactorily? 

you stress too much 

is never good but i'm so determined to not quit cause i have that ability to create great stuff i know it.. im just *not* creating great stuff :| 

progs...

last coagula contest had a special progs, fault my own... besides getting rid of monster corpses and restarting the player with only the axe and shotgun, it had the special code for the func_train. 

Well, so far there's been no mention of special progs required by anyone, so all the maps should be playable with standard progs. It would still be good to get the monster removal and r_max* hacks above though, if possible.

I should be finishing my map today, apart from the final compile, which takes about 2 days in itself. Then I've got a hell of a week at work coming up, so I can't really work on a start map then. If nobody has done anything by the following week and the pak still isn't released, I can work on it.

Can we get an indication from the participants of how many maps we're talking about? I've lost track...

Reading back in the thread I see:

Me - nearly finished, should make it
Fatty - started, says he's now out
Necros - still trying to finish, sounds promising
Distrans - one map failed, second map should make it
Kell - Worldcraft problems...
Phait - Trying, unlikely to finish
Qfanatic - Lost map in a computer crash

Sounds like three maps are likely, and maybe one or two more...

Anyone have anything to add? 

i should have posted something like that, but i am pretty busy with real life (TM) myself right now, (after next week should be better). 

Cause in 2 days I start my first job. Yeah. 

...looks like I won't be able to finish tonight. And I won't get another chance to map until Thursday due to work 8(.

Anyway, here's another screenshot:
http://planetquake.com/tyrann/images/coag-pre3.jpg 

I had this idea.
The idea was great (to me).
I tried the idea.
Wasn't happy with what I had.
Tried again.
Wasn't happy.
Tried one more time.
Wasn't happy.

I'm out. 

http://www.planetquake.com/speedy/screens/space_q_2.jpg 

nice one speedy. 

I've never heard of anyone making a great map on their first go. You'll get better by doing your best and then releasing and starting a new one, not by beating yourself up. 

Or at least finish them before not releasing them.

My philosophy, which I'm sure people will find fault with, is a good SP map is basically a big steaming pile of stuff, with excellent gameplay. I have little preference for "wow" over "WTF?" as long as it plays good and isn't "blah." 

[nt]