Verticality
#14268 posted by killpixel on 2016/12/12 04:19:10
has almost become a trite buzzword. I'm not saying the suggestion is invalid, it just seems to be the go-to critique in any given level design forum.
cool looking map, btw.
#14269 posted by metlslime on 2016/12/12 09:35:46
Needs more horizontality.
#14270 posted by PRITCHARD on 2016/12/12 14:39:43
The trick is to pitch the level 45 degrees so that you cover the most of each axis. That way you have plenty of verticality and horizontality.
Diagonality!
#14271 posted by dwere on 2016/12/12 14:43:05
The way of the future.
What Is Truly Needed Is
Reminds Me Of An Idea I Once Had
#14274 posted by killpixel on 2016/12/12 19:04:33
which is 1) probably terrible and 2) probably already been implemented at some point and proven to be terrible.
the idea: an fps with normal player movement with the addition of being able to rotate the entire level. can't get to a switch beyond your reach? rotate! trying to get to a hole in the ceiling? rotate! is that wall just a skoshe too high? rotate!
Sounds like a migraine inducing pukefest. I hate myself for even thinking of this.
That's Actually A Superb Idea
#14275 posted by Kinn on 2016/12/12 19:08:30
and you should get to making it before some numbnuts steals the idea and turns it into the next Portal and makes a ton of money.
Well, Shit.
#14276 posted by killpixel on 2016/12/12 19:11:11
Fez 2: Canadian Bloobloobloo
#14278 posted by Mugwump on 2016/12/12 19:19:15
I imagined the same thing for a game based on Escher's drawings. Hipnotic and AD do rotations. Would it be possible to rotate an entire map? That would probably be a mapping nightmare.
While not being rotation per se, Cube had the possibility of shifting gravitational direction so you could walk on walls and ceilings to a similar effect.
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#14279 posted by Mugwump on 2016/12/12 19:23:13
Funny that you mentioned Portal because I remember playing a puzzle game (not first person, though) on the PS1, I think, where you had to escape a series of cubic rooms which you needed to rotate to reach the exit. The name eludes me.
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#14280 posted by Kinn on 2016/12/12 19:49:25
Of course the best implementation would be to "fake" it by simply rotating gravity and camera orientation - the level would actually be (mostly) static - no need to make it literally rotate.
Dynamic entities in the level would need to react to the shifting gravity though - that's where all the work would go.
#14281 posted by negke on 2016/12/12 20:02:28
1. Just replay Prey.
2. Not only vertical; it needs to rotate freely around all axes.
#14282 posted by Kinn on 2016/12/12 20:04:42
Not sure if you're implying I was only talking about vertical because I wasn't - the gravity vector can be any orientation.
Escher
#14283 posted by killpixel on 2016/12/12 20:17:02
I can see this being an aesthetic but not a functioning mechanic. His art works because it's a fixed perspective in which he manipulates the perception of depth. In a 3d game you have a variable perspective and actual depth. I remember seeing a 2d escher game on steam that looked pretty nifty.
#14284 posted by mjb on 2016/12/12 20:38:34
Just replay Prey.
Best use of "topsy-turvy" for a fps in my opinion.
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#14285 posted by starbuck on 2016/12/12 21:32:49
Monument Valley
#14286 posted by Mugwump on 2016/12/12 22:20:24
simply rotating gravity
Quake supports this?
I can see this being an aesthetic but not a functioning mechanic. His art works because it's a fixed perspective in which he manipulates the perception of depth.
Yeah, I should have mentioned this idea was mostly inspired by his maze-of-staircases stuff. I realize that his optical illusions would be harder if not impossible to pull off.
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#14287 posted by Kinn on 2016/12/12 22:22:48
We're not talking about a Quake mod.
I Was.
#14288 posted by Mugwump on 2016/12/12 22:37:32
Jedi Knight
#14289 posted by madfox on 2016/12/12 23:31:38
Makes me think of an old map from "the jedi returns". There was this spacecrft that hung diagonally, where the player hangs downunder.
A strange experience, for all elevators work arcangle.
#14290 posted by dwere on 2016/12/12 23:36:19
Serious Sam supports it.
But not the HD remake, AFAIK.
Seriously
#14291 posted by mjb on 2016/12/13 03:09:26
Nope, HD takes away the awesome gravity stuff...was a large disappoint for me.
I Vote.
#14292 posted by Shambler on 2016/12/13 13:48:39
Rotating Kinn and changing his gravity.
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