Quake was developed on CRTs... 

Yes the -gamma option for light.exe is a real gamma, applied on the floating point light map before converting to 8bit and saving. I just added it because it was easy and could be used as a bandaid fix to tune lighting globally.
I forget how -range works but it's not the same as gamma. This is something I should do a series of screenshots of on my site for light. 

Since 1996 I've played quake on all manner of different monitors under all manner of different conditions and used all manner of different gamma values. There isn't really a "correct" gamma value. On old CRTs like in the late 90s, my gamma has been set a lot lighter than I tend to set it today on LCDs. 

I've been using -gamma in light because after I added bounce everything became too bright. Worked pretty well, far easier than changing the values of every light. 

black will probably appear washed out, which sucks, but that seems to be the nature of your display.

I'm an idiot, ignore this. I assume your display seems too dark. CRTs generally have deep blacks and rich color, so boosting contrast seems strange, I would boost brightness first then mess with gamma if you want to brighten up the low end. Of course I'm not there and able to look at it...

Why the fuck am I attempting to deduce what someones monitor looks like from across the world based on contrast and gamma settings in quake? I'm a fool on an errand.

Anyway, I still think it would be worth your while to re-calibrate, reset quake to gamma 1 and go from there. 

I forget how -range works but it's not the same as gamma. This is something I should do a series of screenshots of on my site for light.

This would be great to see! 

Yes the -gamma option for light.exe is a real gamma, applied on the floating point light map before converting to 8bit and saving.

Okay, good to know.

I always assumed -range was just some kind percentage increase. I somehow got started mapping with low light values years ago. Instead of fixing them, I would just bump up the -range setting. 

This is how it looks in game:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Lx3BB5zDt78/V9hBdNVR9vI/AAAAAAAAAjo/fnhGnkx8qD0Mgo3dCVOPWG14IgKugR_8QCLcB/s1600/screen2.jpg
Make your maps with a similar brightness to this.

This is how it looks as an unedited screenshot:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BNDUeY5YyV8/V9hAKNsrEAI/AAAAAAAAAjk/VLKdTt-T544OLLOBKwjS8VQ84u6KzDsNwCLcB/s1600/screen1.jpg
Don't make your maps this dark. 

That is on Quake gamma settings that look perfect on 90% of maps, and on screen settings that look perfect on 99% of other content. 

Killpixel Well it is a bit dark, but instead of having gamma wash everything out, I found it better to tone it down a bit and ramp up the contrast. Also, I don't see a brightness setting in the QS menu.

Kinn Yes, since 0.92 QS has a contrast setting.

OTP & Kinn It's nice to have constructive and non-aggressive replies from you guys. I hope things can stay this way. Bury the hatchet? 

IN THE GREASY FLATULENT ASSHOLE THAT YOU SPRAY OUT ALL THE SHIT YOU TALK INSTEAD OF USING YOUR MOUTH LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING??


























(i.e. yes good idea) 

Judging by your oh so "normal human being" intrusive response to something that wasn't even addressed to you, you must be talking - I mean shitting - out of personal experience... 

8====D 

I have learned now many good things about mapping "gamma", "contrast", "range". So thanks for your patience and honest in the end.

But still, try to chill out a little bit? I might sounds childish time to time (bad grammar maybe), but I never try to make people get triggered over 'these things'. 

...but apparently for some people, conflict is more interesting than cooperation. And to think that they're the ones trying to lecture you on being normal... Fail. 

https://i.sli.mg/bE9Udi.jpg 

I use gamma 1, I also configure my monitor using this site - http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

A good litmus test is to just compare your lighting with vanilla Quake. 

In the monitor i am using right now (switched to TFT from CRT recently), i am seeing Quake practically like your second screenshot (QS with gamma 1). From what you wrote, does that mean i have something badly configured? Even though, personally i think the first one is too bright and bland.

TFT monitors are something arcane for me and i resigned myself on making them look well, but i even considering that I don't get what you say.

Aside form that, about brightness configurations, it does matter a lot when there is several ways to change it and the range oof the available changes is wide, like in Quake 2 where it can be a pain to map, as some maps can look cool in some settings and lame in others.
In this game it doesn't matter, its just a matter of comparing it with other maps like said posts above, and it is a big relief when mapping. 

...I'm digging that vibe. Yes, it drips atmos. I think you are pretty close...now to concentrate on gameplay ;) 

Adib: Great looking corridor, can't wait to see the rest of the map.

NewHouse: Egyptian themes are always cool, though egyptian-themed textures are hard to work with because they usually looks too flat. Using non-square angles as much as possible on the geometry can help a lot (multiple ramps instead of steps, reclined walls instead of straight walls, etc). 

Hmm.. color world might make it look like part of "Egyptian", even though those tiles are from hipnotic wad, large white marble tiles/bricks. To be honest it reminds more of "White Greek Marble Temple/Bathhouse", I got couple small souvenirs from my family and all these Greek soldier figures had this white/yellowish theme going on. 

A new screen.

My mouse has become very flaky over the past week or so, i'm going to be returning it under warranty soon but for now i'm using a crappy wireless one I found. Progress was slow until I switched mice, as by the end of my last one's life it became impossible to click/drag anything, including in TrenchBroom.

Anyway, that (half, behind the camera is a mess of untextured brushes) room is all i've really done since I last took a screen, but it was a fair bit of work cutting it all up for the texture details and so on... Which, again, is quite hard with a bad mouse :( 

Looks great man, excellent atmosphere. 

Image is not shown for me, but just known it is you, I already know it is near perfection. 

Thanks guys :) still working on it.

Pritchard

Wow, loving it. Rock and base, nice mood.

NewHouse

Try a texture called *firecoal It's in "lavacity" wad.