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Posted by Mr Fribbles on 2008/06/21 10:02:02 |
This isn't really aimed at anyone in particular. Have you noticed though, that in affluent countries at least, there's been a remarkable increase in the incidence of pathetic, self-absorbed whining and self-pity? You know what I mean... Wahh wahh, life is so hard, I'm a talented and unique little snowflake, and yet everybody hates me and doesn't appreciate me...
FUCK OFF AND GET OVER YOURSELF! You're a fragile little bag of meat and bones with just enough intelligence to fuck up your own miserable life and then be depressed about it for the rest of your days, is what you are. Accept it and move on.
Err, yes, sorry. Let's get back on track here. Now I'm not a particularly perceptive or observant person, and yet the answer is so bleeding obvious that even I can probably figure it out. Here's my theory, anyway: life is too easy.
Most of us don't have to worry too much about our most basic and important needs - food, shelter, avoiding predators, etc... day to day life is pretty damn easy. Most of us have to work for a living, but as long as you're earning enough to get by (luxuries aside), it's not really worth complaining about. Pretty much everybody has to do it.
If you're not sure where your next meal is coming from, your mind is going to be occupied trying to solve that problem. You're not going to piss and moan about inconsequential little things. If people have no genuine worries or concerns though, they seem to need to invent things to worry about!
Many people just can't seem to simply accept and enjoy life. I can't understand this. If all your basic needs are met, and you even have time and money to indulge in your own preferred leisure activities and hobbies, what's the fucking problem?
It's like people feel that they're bored or boring if they have no drama or conflict in their lives, so they have to invent shit to complain about, to entertain themselves or make themselves seem interesting. Maybe it's just a subconscious psychological thing where the mind needs to occupy itself somehow, so it gives itself something to worry about to keep the wheels spinning.
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#1 posted by Spirit on 2008/06/21 10:51:51
You could also stop projecting some of your negativism onto other people and start being a nice person. Believe me, it will make you feel much better overall if you try seeing a good thing in everything instead of picking out each and every tiny negative aspect.
What is wrong with being nice to other people?
I agree that all emo-ism is bad and annoying but all you see/hear/learn all day is BAD NEGATIVE WAR TERROR EVIL HATE OILPRICE ARMAGEDDON. The EURO 2008 (soccer) at the moment is a great example of how a general positive influence into people's days changes a lot. Nothing really is different in Germany except for our team playing quite well. And booom people are smiling, talking about it, being in a lighter mood.
With a bit more niceness you will change your conception of all your surroundings. Also I recommend you read How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie if you actually want to change something instead of whining and boo-ing yourself.
Fribbles
#2 posted by Kinn on 2008/06/21 12:57:34
I agree with you. I have no time for whiny manchildren in either my personal or professional life.
Bouhahahhahah
#3 posted by JPL on 2008/06/21 13:05:21
Why should we care about other people problems, when we are already not able to solve ours !
Anyway, whining is a waste of time: first "help yourself, and the Lord will help you"... otherwize, nothing will happen...
Tl;dr
#4 posted by czg on 2008/06/21 13:37:14
Spirt
#5 posted by megaman on 2008/06/21 14:10:35
err, the football movement frightens me. Shows how easy it is to influence masses with bullshit, and how much we've learned from the past. It doesn't make people more happy, it just makes them react to media injected stimuli.
I'd be happy if people would feel strongly about important stuff instead, and coming from their own perspective on things.
Oh Man, Goddamn Awesome Topic Out Of Nowhere.
#6 posted by Tronyn on 2008/06/21 14:27:22
this topic is awesome. Giant rants, are awesome.
I actually think the internet has really, really exposed human narcissism. So many people listing irrelevant shit about their day to day lives on their blogs. Oooh, the other 5.99999999 billion of us really care.
I happen to think the world is pretty shitty, but I also realize no one gives a fuck, and furthermore that it could be sooooo, sooooo, sooooooo much worse than it is. With any perspective, we happen to all be in pretty much the best possible spot in both time and space, in terms of human history/civilization. It's amazing that with all the starvation, genocide, war, disease and poverty out there, anyone in a position to POST ON A BLOG could be whining about their emotions.
I think most of the guilty parties here are spoiled adolescent males, who are growing up slower and slower, who think they can get sex/emotional credit by acting effeminate and whiny because they have seen it work on TV, and they suck at life or don't even try. The solution is force them to deal with reality (ie, support themselves).
Good Topic.
#7 posted by Shambler on 2008/06/21 15:06:03
That reminds me, gotta go update my blog and let everyone know how my saturday morning's been. It's been raining and all!
Tronyn Nailed It
#8 posted by Kinn on 2008/06/21 15:18:46
I happen to think the world is pretty shitty, but I also realize no one gives a fuck, and furthermore that it could be sooooo, sooooo, sooooooo much worse than it is. With any perspective, we happen to all be in pretty much the best possible spot in both time and space, in terms of human history/civilization. It's amazing that with all the starvation, genocide, war, disease and poverty out there, anyone in a position to POST ON A BLOG could be whining about their emotions.
I actually think about this on a near daily basis. Consider this - unless you believe in reincarnation, then just consider the unlikeliness of your position - over all time and space, consider all the possible sentient beings that have ever lived, are currently living, and will ever live. It's a large number. You're one of them. What the christ are the chances that out of all the times and places that you could have been born in, you happen to be living in one where you can sleep at night without fear of being eaten by a monster; you know exactly when and where your next meal is coming from (and have the luxury of being able to pick and choose about it). If you're ill, or injured you can be healed by technology, and what's more there's a good chance all your children are going to survive you. For most of us, our biggest worry is what danger-free occupation we're going to concern ourselves with for one-third of each day (well, for 5 out of 7 days at least). The rest of the time we are either sleeping or entertaining ourselves with sex, drugs, or the latest toy.
We are privileged bastards.
We Are All Scum
#9 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/21 15:45:59
As soon as everybody gets used to that fact the sooner we can get on with living.
No Need To Say More
#10 posted by Tron on 2008/06/21 17:47:42
Kinn/Tronyn have covered it perfectly.
Modern Society Is Lazy
#11 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/21 19:04:02
Atleast people who post on blogs (and Forums) are doing something with there time, expressing themselves, reaching out....
A lot of people are lazy or depressed or both. It's easy to find yourself this way.
Effort is a good word. Many people groan about this word on a daily basis, but if everybody tried hard do do things for themselves and other people more the world would be a better place. You get out of life what you put into it.
Sometimes all you need is one good notion to motivate yourself, some sort of vision of something you want to change. And if your will changes then directly and indirectly you will manipulate the world (and its people) around you and probably end up reaching that goal. And the best part is that you can have many goals simnultaeously!
But the world is a shitty place! It does get people down, there's always going to be fear in the world. Except if there was no fear then there would be no love
Nothing To Discuss
#12 posted by gone on 2008/06/21 19:04:38
I guess Frib never heard of the "hierarchy of needs" (go ahead, google)
#13 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/21 19:06:53
bastards undercut me again
How To Win Friends & Influence People By Dale Carnegie
#14 posted by gone on 2008/06/21 19:09:25
is a horrible book. a way to become a nasty manipulative fake-acting person
#15 posted by Lunaran on 2008/06/21 19:18:49
I don't know whether to blame the rash of black fingernail polish or the equally self-righteous reaction on the part of 'genuinely happy people', but I rather dislike that those with genuine depression now find it even harder to gain a foothold socially because they're not kharmic beacons of energy and joy that everyone wants in their life.
Why are you surprised that having money and being able to post on a blog doesn't make people happy? You can have the kind of life that modern consumer culture considers perfect and still be really and truly miserable, because those aren't the important things.
Genuine Depression
#16 posted by gone on 2008/06/21 19:27:36
needs medical treatment. do yourself a favour - see a doc
Naahhh - Fuck That Man!!!
#17 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/21 19:49:34
Depression needs a doctor my ass!!! Depression needs a slap. Fucking people should grow some testicles and put up a fight against depression. Live like your life depended on it.
I'm not stupid enough to read any self-help books. The whole idea is completely stupid. The author is trying to say he can relate to you, but if that were the case it would be a "lets write a self-help book then we will be rolling and money and can toss ourselves off in self-rightiouslness" book.
Mind over matter wins.
It doesnt matter if you're mentally ill, it doesn't meen you can't try hard.
Some people talk too much bullshit.
#18 posted by czg on 2008/06/21 19:55:45
#17
#19 posted by Shambler on 2008/06/21 20:10:47
Some people talk too much bullshit.
Couldn't agree more...
#20 posted by negke on 2008/06/21 20:19:11
Fucking people should grow some testicles and put up a fight against depression. = Some people talk too much bullshit.
Typical statements of people who never seriously had to deal with those things themselves. Everybody reacts to and approaches problems/situations/requirements etc differently. If one person can cope with everything just fine, it doesn't mean everybody else can easily do so as well.
People evaluate their existence within their own specific context, so what seems redundant to some might very well be worth complaining about to other, since modern society only theoretically offers equal opportunities for all.
Arguing that everyone who isn't as content and rejoicing as they supposedly should because life could be so much worse seems pretty arrogant to me. Then again, I agree there is something about western society that really fosters this, at least to a certain extend. Basic needs are being fulfilled, but then maybe a competition for the rest sets in.
That Should Read
#21 posted by negke on 2008/06/21 20:21:36
Arguing that everyone who isn't as content and rejoicing as they supposedly should is a just a whiny emo...
Theres
#22 posted by ijed on 2008/06/21 21:12:59
A big difference between having a mental illness and being a whiny negative cunt.
This thread was basically complete after the first handful of posts.
Ahem
#23 posted by ijed on 2008/06/21 21:13:35
Whiny negative cunt being nobody in particular.
Re: How To Win Friends & Influence People
#24 posted by Spirit on 2008/06/21 21:30:43
It's been years since I read it, all I really remember is that it emphasizes on giving positive feedback to your outside, even if it might be not what you think is right, resulting in a profite for both you and the receiver.
Err
#25 posted by megaman on 2008/06/21 22:09:34
the receiver doesn't profit from that (in the long run), and you suddenly are a lier. Humanity certainly doesn't profit :(
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