 So...   
		#1 posted by  metlslime on 2006/08/11 13:44:28  
		I looked at the screenshots and stuff.  It's a huge aggregation of a bunch of (presumably free) existing content, including textures and levels you will probably recognize.  For example I saw a retextured version of an RPG speedmap here:  http://qexpo.quakedev.com/uploaded/17/weapons000012.jpg
 
 It also appears to have some non-free content, such as models recognizably ripped from quake2 and the UT series.
 
  It also doesn't appear to be a true TC, as i see stock torch models, a knight model, and stock HUD graphics.
 
  Those comments aside, it would be interesting to see what all is here and how it plays, since it claims to be a huge game (6x15 SP levels?)   
	 
		
		 This Is Shit   
		#2 posted by  negke on 2006/08/11 15:04:03  
		lots of material randomly thrown together without the slightest credit for the original authors. not only quake2 monsters, weapons and music (+unreal tournament apparently), also rpg and quoth stuff, as well as a lot of maps that i would bet my ass are used without permission, like e1m1rmx, rpgse, beyond belief,...  
	 
		
		 I Played Through The Whole Thing   
		#3 posted by  starbuck on 2006/08/11 17:15:18  
		not a lot of original content, but still fun to play through, some of the weapons were pretty satisfying, although the combat got a little boring after a while.  Stupid scrags.  
	 
		
		 Yeah   
		#4 posted by  R.P.G. on 2006/08/11 20:17:52  
		I saw this during the expo. In the booth, screenshots 2, 3, and 4 are from RPGSMSE. However, I released the maps under the GPL, so he has every right to use them, as long as he redistributes the source if he made any changes.
  
  However, I strongly disapprove of his texture-replacement choices. tsk.  
	 
		
		 As Far As I Know ...   
		#5 posted by  Baker on 2006/08/11 21:45:05  
		The "Tails" guy is a 13 (ish) year old from a non-English speaking country.
  
  Just a kid who has to use Babelfish to read English and isn't familiar with legalities and such.
  
  I wouldn't be too hard on him.  
	 
		
		 Bad Name   
		#6 posted by John on 2006/08/12 07:21:24 
		He is not Tails but Shadowtails.He is from Czech  
	 
		
		 Permissions About Maps   
		#7 posted by shadowtails on 2006/08/12 07:38:22 
		Sorry about premission but i was download it from Rush server and in zip of maps were only 1kb readme file Which says this
  
  23/4/2006 Generate by  S.Savolsky
  
  ******************
  Rushin maps archiv
  ******************
  
  With this maps you can do whatever you want.
  You mussn�t write to use any permissions.
  
  
  etc.
  
  Sorry but i don not known who made this or that map.
  Sorry for my horrible English.  
	 
		
		 For  Neg!ke (see Comment Picture For You)   
		#8 posted by  John on 2006/08/12 09:08:49  
		I think that you are one of the primitive people. You can only hase people but your maps Sucks.They sucks just your foots. Does anybody tell that shit ratite to trauses?At first find oneself and don not hase people you fuckning idiot. Ii is not his mistake that he found bad site with quake maps.But you are unchangeable!!!  
	 
		
		 LOL   
		#9 posted by  Spirit on 2006/08/12 09:55:27  
		neg!ke, your maps suck!
  
  btw John/shadowtails: You can't fool anyone that you are the same person.
  
  Thanks for a laugh, but this mod sucks and is illegal for the content.  
	 
		
		 For LOL   
		#10 posted by John on 2006/08/12 10:21:29 
		We are not one person i have been conected to his ip adress only.  
	 
		
		
		#11 posted by shadowtails on 2006/08/12 10:28:11 
		Yeah spirit next sample how to score off.
  Try use stronger software for spamers.
  
  PS: Cheapalert has do ilegall mod to.Nirvana is ilegal mod to and many others.
  
  PSS:Don not worry this is no spam.Don not worry about your quaddicted.com website.  
	 
		
		 A Candidate To Replace   
		#12 posted by  HeadThump on 2006/08/12 10:36:47  
		All Your Base Are Belong To Us
  
   Does anybody tell that shit ratite to trauses? 
  
  Do I hear a second?  
	 
		
		 Repeat To LoL And Neg!ike   
		#13 posted by Sniper on 2006/08/12 10:37:05 
		Good day boys,
  you have wrote that this mod is suck and it is shit.Ok it is opinion.But if this mod is so bad why has he 5 stars of 5? I think that this mod is vergy COOL.And neg!ke try to do some good maps.Your maps is shit not this mod.
  Tails is right.Many mods is illegal not for quake1 only.Good work shadowtails.  
	 
		
		 =)   
		#14 posted by  Maric on 2006/08/12 10:58:33  
		/me sits back, props his feet an enjoys the show.  
	 
		
		 This Thread Is Awesome/horrifying   
		#15 posted by  BlackDog on 2006/08/12 11:21:27  
		Delete where not applicable.  
	 
		
		 Eagerly Wanted A Quick Shot Of Fresh Quake....   
		
		...so I downloaded (without reading the thread). Started the game. Turned off the rather boring soundtrack. Got geared for the action. System crashed 2 times in the start map. Deleted everything. Got back to Adamantine Cruelty. Aaaahhhh!!! Relief...
  Got to the thread...
  These people simply have a real thin grip on reality... 
  BTW, Neg!ke roolz!
  
  The Silent has spoken(!)  
	 
		
		 System Cracsh   
		#17 posted by shadowtails on 2006/08/12 11:57:54 
		I don not know what happens with your start map but if you get the setup on your HDD try download the update.  
	 
		
		
		#18 posted by Aquashark on 2006/08/12 13:06:02 
		is this really news material? :)))  
	 
		
		 Haha! Cute   
		#19 posted by  negke on 2006/08/12 15:36:50  
		yeah, maybe my maps suck, but at least i did make some myself.
  see, split personality, all i was trying to say is properly credit all material you use. gpl'd or not, this is the way to go, even for unoriginal mods - quakesrc people told you the same a week ago btw.
  i'm truely sorry if my previous post hurt your feelings... for i know squeezing pimples hurts enough already... ;)  
	 
		
		 Awesome   
		#20 posted by  Spirit on 2006/08/12 16:26:55  
		this thread rocks!
  
  John: How come you as a chinese connect with shadowtails (czech) IP?  
	 
		
		 Again About Maps   
		#21 posted by shadowtails on 2006/08/12 21:44:37 
		I have already sad that it is not my mistake that Rushin server modify zip formats and delet all contacts and appropriate to himself.
  Sourc code is legal.I have permission from wazat.
  
  PS:As far as would be the contact email in all zip i would used to be send to all authors for permission.If they sad NO i would delete them from my mod.  
	 
		
		 Shadowtails   
		#22 posted by  R.P.G. on 2006/08/13 21:06:31  
		You may use my maps in your mod. That is your right. But if you have modified my maps, please also upload the new source .map files to comply with the license.  
	 
		
		 Map List:   
		#23 posted by  metlslime on 2006/08/13 23:23:15  
		Note that some of these are renamed from the original bsp name:
  
  start.bsp - "Monastry of Time Monks" by Marcus Dromowicz (mexx9.bsp)
  e1m1.bsp - "The Slipgate Duplex" by Vondur and CZG (e1m1rmx.bsp)
  e1m2.bsp - "Histrionic Station" by RPG (rpgsmse.bsp)
  rpgsmse2.bsp - "Anatidaephobia" by RPG
  rpgsmse3.bsp - "Jesus Wept" by RPG
  alphaproject.bsp - "The Alpha Project" by Jeff Popplewell (alpha001.bsp)
  colony.bsp - "Colony" by Mark Turner
  colony2.bsp - "The Culling Station" by Mark Turner
  houseoftraps.bsp - "House of Traps" by Scott McNutt (houstrps.bsp)
  cobalplace.bsp - "The Cobalt Palace" by Mungo (m_palace.bsp)
  armaggedon.bsp - "Armageddon 2" by Matthias Worch (arma2.bsp)
  elektracomplex.bsp - "The Elektra Complex" by Andrew Smith (elektra.bsp)
  bb1.bsp - "Mission Control" by Matthias Worch
  bb2.bsp - "The Cleanse" by Matthias Worch
  bb3.bsp - "Another fine mess..." by Matthias Worch
  bb4.bsp - "Hell's Sewers" by Matthias Worch
  bb5.bsp - "The Lava Grounds" by Matthias Worch
  bb7.bsp - "The Unholy Alliance" by Matthias Worch  
	 
		
		 Then ...   
		#24 posted by  Baker on 2006/08/14 00:17:01  
		hopefully they are in a gamedir  
	 
		
		 Kidding Around Aside ...   
		#25 posted by  Baker on 2006/08/14 00:30:53  
		Stay strong shadowtails ... takes a while to learn "the rules" in anything and everyone makes mistakes the first time or 2 they do things.
  
  "Rookie mistakes" ... everyone makes them.  
	 
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