Hehe
#1 posted by Baker on 2006/06/12 11:44:35
It's hard to find something to say about tools and utilities except that AguirRe's tools page is invaluable.
I added a link to the page in the QuakeOne tools download section.
http://www.quakeone.com/index.php?ind=downloads&op=category_view&cat_id=8
Request
#2 posted by than on 2006/06/12 20:34:59
your tools are great, but I would really love to see you implement native skip texture removal support into bsp - even if it was just the removal of the texture from solidents and not the worldspawn, this would be awesome.
Would it be difficult to remove faces from brushmodels? I have never seen problems occuring with Tyrann's tool when only removing faces from bmodels BUT it doesn't support maps with more than 32768 faces :(
Not Entirely Related:
#3 posted by bear on 2006/06/13 06:55:40
Would it be totally insane to visualise the compile process so you could actualy see it cut up the space and all other things that is done? Natually it would result in at least a little bit longer compile times and there might be hard to show what's going on in any remotely educational way.
Replies
#4 posted by aguirRe on 2006/06/13 08:22:56
Baker: Thanks!
than: Nothing planned atm.
bear: I'm sure it's possible, but I can't imagine how much work that would require or how much slower it would be. In QuArK, you can load the finished prt file and inspect how the portals are distributed in the map.
However, it's pretty slow and very hard to make anything out of in a big map. You can use it to identify portal intensive areas, though.
AguirRe
#5 posted by Ankh on 2006/06/13 11:59:06
What would we do without you! Thanks a lot for great work!
Good Going, AguiRe,
#6 posted by HeadThump on 2006/06/13 15:10:29
I'll be playing around with these tonight to see what else you have stirred in the pot.
Quark
#7 posted by than on 2006/06/13 21:30:39
sounds pretty fucking cool actually.
Don't think I will be making a switch, since I plan to make even fewer Quake maps after QExpo so that I have time to do other things, but it might warrant an investigation.
Dudes
You can view the portal file in Radiant, its pretty fast and the visualisation, while naturally confusing at times due to the nature of what is being displaying, is still pretty enlightening. At the very least, it can tell you at a glance if the file is very good or very bad. :D
Just use the prtview plugin, by default it will specify the .prt file for the current map, with the path and filename set up assuming it is in the same directory as the .map file, you can override this path and filename if you wish though.
#9 posted by Trinca on 2006/06/18 15:36:27
ohh i�m not a mapper iet but i like a lot your tool�s :) good work!
#10 posted by pjw on 2006/06/19 10:09:15
ohh i�m not a mapper iet but i like a lot your tool�s
That's what she said.
*rimshot*
#11 posted by spd on 2006/06/24 06:37:54
func_group parsing on BSP stage plz plz ( so they just get moved back to world)
and dont point me to the java thing
Func_group
#12 posted by Preach on 2006/06/24 07:07:08
If it was added, you'd need to make it a compiler option, and probably off by default. Some mods might feature brush entities called func_group, and the ability to compile maps for these mods shouldn't be compromised.
Linux?
#13 posted by Rexroom on 2006/06/26 05:12:03
Ever considered making versions for linux?
Linux
#14 posted by aguirRe on 2006/06/26 07:30:03
Nope, I don't have any *nix here. I think I recall someone mentioned having porting some of my tools to *nix, though.
Rexroom / AguirRe
#15 posted by JPL on 2006/06/26 12:11:17
Recompiling the code source (provided in each release if I remeber well) sounds to be the easiest way to build your own Linux executable.. isn't it ?
Heh
#16 posted by Spirit on 2006/06/26 23:24:53
Don't they work easily with Wine?
Spirit
#17 posted by JPL on 2006/06/26 23:46:11
Wine sucks: we use it at office in order to work with MicroSoft Office tools under Linux (word, excel, etc..). And it is slow as hell !!!
I think you would not get any advantage to launch a vis process with wine, as it slows down process (remember it is a additional layer above Linux that "emulate" Windows). IMHO it is preferable to recompile it for your Linux / Unix environment... ;P
AguirRe
#18 posted by Jago on 2006/06/27 01:46:26
You could use VMWare to run Linux within a virtual machine from a running Windows session. This way you would be able to do Linux development without having to screw around with multiboots and whatnot, it works very well.
Wine
#19 posted by anonymous user on 2006/07/09 00:01:02
actually the tools work very well under wine. Wine may suck for a lot of stuff, but you can get quite a lot of simpler stuff to work well. I've used it for AquirRe's tools, texmex, wally, and other little non game related nick nacks, and it has worked fine, and not slow at all.
Aguire
#20 posted by inertia on 2006/07/12 15:30:42
I have myriad *ix machines here, lemme know if you would like a developer account. I'd like to see these tools become as multiplatform as possible.
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