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@rik @gila 
progs_dump has the mission pack 2 style of elevators with a good sample map you can study and cut and paste from

AND progs_dump also has the func_train "wait for retrigger" method metlslime refers to as well

You can find progs_dump 2 here and version 3 will be coming out next week come hell or high water.

No later than the 27th (if all goes as planned)

You are welcome to come to the dev Discord and ask questions! https://discord.gg/bd7n4v2Xmj

One thing to note is that the trains changed between version 2 and 3 so you'll need to tweak this if you start with 2 and move to 3. 
 
Thanks for the recommendations everyone! I'm doing this for a school project and I'm not sure if we're allowed to use mods, so fingers crossed. 
Hey All! 
Been tinkering with Quake mapping again after ... so very, very long.

At any rate, using Arcane Dimensions and wanting to start the player with just their axe. I see the "takeweapons" key for the worldspawn but not having a lot of luck getting it to do anything. And Google hits are very thin.

Any guidance I could refer to? 
Gmaninator 
You may also have a look at the "Holy Quake Mapping Bible" written by aguirRe:

http://bjp.fov120.com/tooltips.txt

This text file allowed me to solve 99% of the issues I face when I as mapping (one decade ago)

Good read ! 
@WarrenM 
Just found the same question on discord.

Give the player a trigger_once hull brush.

classname trigger_once
target take

Another trigger

classname target_items
items 4096
origin . . .
spawnflags 2
targetname take
weapon 4096

Player starts with only the axe.
Thanks riktoi. 
Func_train 
With "wait" "-1" on the path_corner you want it to stop at. Train will start again when triggered (again) 
Compiling Gui Not Working >:( 
I'm trying to compile my quake map and its not working so here's the error.



Copying Files...
1 file(s) copied.
Converting map...
--------------QBSP--------------
---- qbsp / ericw-tools v0.18.1-32-g6660c5f ----
Input file: gamermap.map
Output file: gamermap.bsp

---- LoadMapFile ----
*** WARNING 06: No info_player_deathmatch entities in level
4808 faces
783 brushes
341 entities
36 unique texnames
1075 texinfo

Opened WAD: D:/quakedev/wads/QUAKE101.WAD
Processing hull 0...
---- Brush_LoadEntity ----
0 brushes
0 planes
---- CSGFaces ----
0 brushfaces
0 csgfaces
0 mergedfaces
---- Portalize ----
--------------VIS---------------
---- vis / ericw-tools v0.18.1-32-g6660c5f ----
running with 16 threads
testlevel = 4
LoadBSPFile: 'gamermap.bsp'
************ ERROR ************
Error opening gamermap.bsp: No such file or directory
-------------LIGHT--------------
---- light / ericw-tools v0.18.1-32-g6660c5f ----
Raytracing backend: Embree
running with 16 threads
LoadBSPFile: 'gamermap.bsp'
************ ERROR ************
Error opening gamermap.bsp: No such file or directory
The system cannot find the file specified.
The system cannot find the file specified.
The system cannot find the file specified.
Press any key to continue . . .


It used to compile fine but now it doesn't. I'm new to this message board so I might not be posting in the right place. please help I wanna finish my map >:( 
#20849 
Something is probably wrong in your setup, like directories or perhaps the paths have spaces in them (they shouldn't). Maybe something changed?

For some reason the QBSP log looks cut off and then immediately VIS log starts. Either way the BSP file either can't be created (maybe some user rights issue like you can't write to that folder or whatever) or is not created due to some other error. 
 
Yeah you'd probably need to show us how your compile GUI is set up, paths/arguments/whatever. 
Try Running The Tools Using A Command Prompt. 
Put your tools (qbsp.exe, vis.exe and light.exe) in a directory such as c:\compile\, along with your map file.

Then click start, type CMD, press enter.

You should see a command prompt.

Type cd c:\compile

Then type qbsp gamermap

Then, assuming it finishes, type light gamermap

If that runs, type vis gamermap

then you can copy your map file to quake\id1\maps or wherever your maps directory is.

Then you can run Quake, press the tilde key (`), and type map gamermap.

The old fashioned way. You will probably find out what the problem is along the way. If not, post your experience here :) 
Quake Rerelease Crashes 
My map crashes the Quake Rerelease with this weird error:

kexTaggedMemory::Malloc: failed on allocation of 18446744073709453648 bytes (c:\jenkins-agen\workspace\_ii_silver_athena_quake_i_master\kex3_bastet\source\renderer\r_model.cpp:1145)

It's vis'd properly with no warnings or errors and works in quakespasm and qss. 
Solved It.. 
Selected everything and moved the map so it's at the center of the grid and now it runs fine. 
Cant Select Touching 
whenever i use Ctrl-T or click "select touching" in the menu, instead of selecting touching, it deletes the object i originally pressed. What am i doing wrong? 
Lingua_Ignota 
Are you using Radiant? If so, that is expected behavior. The four options -- "select partial tall," "select complete tall," "select touching," and "select inside" -- all assume that you will first draw out a temporary brush that you intend to use only to select "real" brushes. The temp brush then gets deleted as part of the operation. 
^ Yes. 
In Worldcraft and other editors, you can drag a selection box to select brushes and entities. But in Trenchbroom there is no selection tool. So you make a temporary brush then Ctrl+T. 
Button Works Off Proximity? 
i've been trying to design some elevator shennanigans and the last blocker i am experiencing is a button i have that triggers several targets sharing the same name is also triggering an func_door that itself has no targetname. I don't understand how this button is doing is causing the func_door elevator to move once pressed despite seeming have no direct connection to the elevator. I think I've even recreated the brush at this point, deleted and drawn a new one, and structuralized the old one... it seems like it's a proximity thing, like the button is triggering it just by proximity!?? 
Door Linking Could Be The Issue 
If doors touch, quake will automatically link them to animate together (so that a two-part door will animate in sync.) Could that be your issue? If so, there is a spawnflag on doors for "don't link", see if that helps. 
Doors Aren't Linked, And Yet... 
Thanks for the suggestion, testing this out inevitably lead me to fixing the problem which I think had more to do with some nearby doors. I don't know what about them was the problem exactly... but I had three brushes rising up out of the ground to form a wall, and two of those brushes were grouped as one func_door with the other working as a func_door on its own. Ungrouping these and turning them into one func_door seemed to fix it. Why I had it any other way in the first place I cannot say. But that's another blocker overcome, wooh! 
Falling Through Floor Brush All The Sudden 
after compiling my map properly (using ericw's tools, i've been doing the fast mode for a bit), a brush that is part of the walkable section of a floating platform bridge I have built it suddenly not solid, causing the player to fall through it. i've tried switching the brush to an entity and back to structural, replacing it with a duplicate, adjusting the geometry. the only thing that makes it solid seems to be placing a duplicate of it directly underneath it - and it does work, the player does not stand on the duplicate's geometry, it's like the brush's geometry is suddenly solid again.

i don't know what's up with this! 
Is The Brush On-grid? 
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+V in Trenchbroom snaps all the vertexes to grid AFAIK.

Sounds weird, I've had weird bugs in the geometry before. If you download the Worldcraft Quakeadapter, you can load your mapfile, then click Map-> Check for problems. It has nice mapfile error reporting. (Well it's better than nothing I guess). But I don't think the auto-fix tool will do you much good. Might yield some info though. Trenchbroom has a console too, if you click Ctrl+4, that might show something up. 
You Can Also Check Any Brushes That The Brush Intersects 
for errors too. 
And Check The Texture Scalings On The Brush. 
 
Func_button Linked To A Func_plat Or Func_door Or Func_train 
Hi all.
I'm trying to make a simple elevator, imagine it's a small cabin. I want it to be triggered by a button. So far it's simple, the problem is that I want that button to be a part of the elevator (cabin), so it moves when the elevator moves.

I tried with func_plat, func_door and func_train, without success, the button will not move.

Any idea?

Thanks. 
Raverx 
I don’t think you can do that with vanilla progs. But with most of the big mega mods like AD, alkaline, copper, and progs_dump, I think you can. 
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