I said nothing mean about your mom. 

voodoo -- don't exile yourself on account of a few people's ignorant comments. I'm sure the people in question wouldn't be so cruel as to blatantly disrespect you and your mother.

I apologize on behalf of all of #terrafusion and it's needless for you to go away if you ever need help with anything. Ignore the stupid comments -- sometimes people forget that we're more than just anonymous nicknames and that we're real people with real problems.

I'm sorry for the loss of your mother and if you wanna talk, drop me a message. 

voodoo: please leave #tf drama off func_msgboard.

That being said, I don't think any of us thought you were serious about your mother being dead. I thought you just mentioned it in jest, so I was just funning you. It's not like #tf is the most serious place in the world. 

Shrimp:
Someone being dead is not something I would joke about. Sorry for dragging this into the boards, but couldn't really think of any other way to put this up without getting showered by another wave of insults.

Asaki:
Very Sorry! Was a big mistake I made putting you there, you were on "my" side so to say, once again I wish I had an edit function here.
Got pretty stressed out and angry and in some way I made that connection.

Bl1tz:
Thanks, I appreciate it, may still ask questions about mapping here but I think that the "socializing" in #tf is bad for as a person and seldomly brings me anything but anger and/or feeling bad about myself for telling a mean joke on someone. 

How can this be?!

I wasn't involved in any of this, but I just have to say that if you're going to take rude, disgusting, or otherwise incorrect behavior on the internet seriously, then you are quite right to stop posting on most chat channels. And you should probably be very careful about what message boards you post on as well.

Caveman Urg was sending smoke signals in 1,000,000 BC that said something about Caveman Oog's mom, and I don't think it will stop anytime soon. Hell, check out the latest Penny Arcade comic.

I'm sorry it happened, and I'm sorry you're upset, but you'll either need to grow a thicker skin, or restrict your internet use accordingly. 

I really hate when people on forums write a 'goodbye' thread hoping to get attention, just leave. Then again, I can't really talk about leaving #tf drama off func_msgboard 

I don't know about the full story that provoked this "goodbye".. and if the really main reason is the text file link, which relates the sad discussion about your mother, OK, everybody can agree it was very very unfair.. But, Voodoo.., agree yourself that you are perhaps a little bit susceptible on this "topic"... I can understand you were hurted by these sad comments, but you just must know that joking is one of the main rules on a forum, even if sometimes comments are very disrespectful... Every time people are joking about your work, your name, sometimes your english (I know what I'm talking about... I'm french.. ), and they can be really cruel... As well all people are not able to understand jest like you understand it... So, even if the comments about your mother were really sad and disrespectful, and I think everybody is sorry for your mother's death, and as well for the meany comments about her (as well for the guys involved in it... I hope so), I really think your reaction is bigger than the real "jest intention" of the discussion... the more if people didn't know about your mother's death...
Just think about it... and if you really want to leave the forum, then goodbye, it's your own choice...
and good luck for the future... 

Hang in there dude, don't let them get to you. You'll be right, what goes around comes around. 

what goes around comes around. is that a "Brazilian Hard Rock Metal" Sepultura (see "Chaos AD" album - "Endangered Species" title if I remember well...) deliberate reference, or just a coincidence ??
8D..
Sorry for the off-topic comments... sigh... 

Just like, what you give out, you will eventually receive back in kind.

Not that I feel that those people who were saying things about voodoo's mum, actually believed she had died, they most likely thought it as a joke. God, I hope they did, otherwise they are complete asshats, and deserved of immediate extinction. I didn't actually see or read the txt that was linked to until later. 

that is officially the scariest thread title there is 

"Endangered Species" title comes from Sepultura "Roots" album, sorry...

VoreLord, if it was a joke from Voodoo, it was a bad joke, but if it's not, I can easily understand why he is hangry...

Anyway, you are fully right... there is some topics where joke are not welcomed... 

voodoochopsticks: ok, i'm sorry then. but it didn't come across that you were very serious seeming as moments before you were kidding with us all and calling us sissys and faggots. i've been a gay man all my life and would appreciate no one making gay jokes around me anymore. 

I just read that text thing, that's so fucking awful. You know what's worse? They didn't even make that much fun of me when my cat died. Scampie made a joke about me fucking it too hard or something then everyone got serious :( You TF people fucking suck donkey balls sometimes, and btw my best friend lost his mother to cancer when he was 12, so I can understand how it feels (sort of.) I'm sorry about your loss. 

I didn't mean that voodoo WAS joking, but that the others may have thought that him saying his mother had died was a joke, joke is not the right word, more like they may have thought he was having them on, and they, well, the rest is history. I don't know, I wasn't there, but reading that txt is, well, it's pathetic, the only thing I can is, they MUST have thought voodoo was "having them on" Normal people wouldn't do that sought of thing. (hmmm, using the phrase "Normal People" whilst talking about #TF'ers anf Func_ 'ers maybe a contradiction in terms) Any way best let it alone 

OK, I didn't understand all the language subtility... Sorry... even if it's quite the same regarding the result: joke or not joke (from Voodoo, or others) it was not fair to talk like this about a family's member of any part. People should take much more care before, in order to avoid this kind of "verbal aggression"... some people are more sensible than others... A little bit more of humbleness and respect would be better... sigh... 

Don't let this foolishness deter you from experimenting with Quake. For every person willing to disrespect you, there are three more who are happy to help you out. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with, so don't drop out completely. 

<Friction> you guys are tasteless
<Friction> like bland, you know?

And who's autumn? 

nt 

 

A regrettable situation I think.

1. The internet is a harsh place full of banter and pisstaking. I think that's fine and most people get used to it. I don't think anyone is suggesting it should be otherwise.

2. I think a line can be crossed when you start insulting people about personal off-line circumstances that are causing them genuine hurt. There is quite a difference between slagging someone off about something they choose to do online, or slagging them off with non-specific insults, and slagging them off about something personal and hurtful which they have no control over.

I would hope that people online would have enough honour to respect that boundary and realise that even in this free and easy medium that there are limits to what's appropriate behaviour.

Obviously if someone explains that they have this offline issue that is hurting them and shouldn't be abused, well, you have to trust them - they could be lying and the whole thing could be a farce. Sobeit. There's plenty of opportunity to take the piss and if you have to leave one avenue of pisstaking alone, I'm sure you can cope.

3. However from the other side, if you are being hurt, expressing your vulnerability publically is probably the wrong way to go about it. Better ways to go about it would be to leave the public situation immediately, and then privately message the people who have been abusing the situation - if they respond badly to the PM, then just ignore them.

As an example, I had been slagging off another user with "mother" jokes, and that user explained to me privately that his mother was dead and he really objected to such insults. So I stopped and started slagging him off with all sorts of other things instead. 

...like the way Shambler is writing things in english. I wish I know the damn language so well =( 

#dramafusion 

It's more or less what i think about the theme. 

still funny