http://files.filefront.com/qme30_full_installer/;2980786;;/fileinfo.html 

Thanks a lot ! You rock ! I will try the stuff tonight ;P 

Could y'give me some thoughts on this logo I designed? Do you see any issues?

http://hosting.alanwake.net/tcf/jrlogo1.gif 

Not bad, but the squigly area above the beak makes it look crooked, and detracts the sense of mystery and malevolence a raven should have.

The writing is good though. I think it has potential. 

Not bad, but the squigly area above the beak makes it look crooked, and detracts the sense of mystery and malevolence a raven should have.

The writing is good though. I think it has potential. 

Another "I only clicked submit once" double post o_O 

it should fit into the rectangualar shape and be less of ravensoft ripoff to become any good 

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I'll take a harder look at that and see what I can do.

Re: Speeds
Ravensoft... That's a royal assfuck because I had a previous design that went through the motions too - it was a side-profile shot and immediately people thought Ravensoft.

I don't know if it's the raven subject matter, or the raven-in-a-box style... I would highly prefer to keep the head-on view, but maybe I need to experiment with how it's sitting. I think Ravensoft's logo is a little overdetailed, though it seems to scale down alright. 

if you don't want it to look like the ravensoft logo, don't limit yourself to cropping it to the raven's head. There's plenty of other angles and poses than headshots.

Are you thumbnailing out a few dozen of these and then picking the good ones or just starting a fully detailed logo cold and hoping for the best? 

the eyes could be bigger and more side-looking and bulged to make it more animaly and menacing... dunno. And maybe even such that
the pupils don't show, since in reality the raven's eyes are prettymuch black.
http://albums.laurenstravels.com/regents-park-birdlife/raven

but it'd probably not work, dunno... the current logo is too cartooningly amusing in my mind, it looks a bit like a human-style caricature. 

http://www.schmoker.org/BirdPics/Photos/Corvids/CORA__1.jpg
the eyes are canted, and it's much more evil :) 

- http://hosting.alanwake.net/tcf/jrlogo2.png
- http://hosting.alanwake.net/tcf/jrlogo3.png

I did only a few small sketches, nothing too substantial. Because I couldn't find good reference pics for a headon shot, this one was kinda hammered out - and also why it has some issues. Right now my biggest issue is the beak, I realised it's not the right perspective with the rest of the head. The eyes are almost there, but not quite yet.

Bambuz - that is 1 photo I've recently come across.

I want to avoid evil look, and moreso a bold look. It's inbetween. I prefer the headon because I think it can be engaging. 

...err, how do I contact you outside this board? 

Don't mean to sound like an ass but here's a tip to keep you from wondering next time:

Remove all characters starting at the end of the URL hosting.alanwake.net/tcf/jrlogo3.png until you get to the last /, which designates a directory (TCF) so:

http://hosting.alanwake.net/tcf/

And you would find my site, and a contact form :) 

are you there? :P 

I am here.

get on the hotdog :P 

No theme and only two maps this week: Trinca discovered the power of cut'n'paste, while neg!ke offers a controversial approach to the concept of happiness.

Screenshots:
http://www.quaddicted.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_details/gid,930/Itemid,60/
Download:
http://www.quaddicted.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,930/Itemid,60/ 

yeah, func was lagging at the right time... again. 

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seems to work from thailand on quakenet, I was able to connect today but the client installed (pirch98) killed the computer after a while but I might come back in the future when Im doing my netcafe visits. 

connected last night. I just had to connect to a different server than the usual one (irc.quakenet.org).

I connected with Opera, but I doubt it would have made any difference if I'd have used Mirc or whatever.