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JPL: 
milkshape has more capabilities, and supports more games, but qme has a better interface for what features it has. 
And... 
... I have only qME unregistered, so I can't modify "big" monsters... Well, I was trying to find good reasons to install MilkShape, I will do, and see if usefull or not..
Anyway, thanks for the infos ;P 
Jpl 
one can get the full version from somewhere. at least i downloaded it from an official? url someone posted. don't know where it was, though. 
Jpl 
Neg!ke 
Thanks a lot ! You rock ! I will try the stuff tonight ;P 
Logo Thoughts 
Could y'give me some thoughts on this logo I designed? Do you see any issues?

http://hosting.alanwake.net/tcf/jrlogo1.gif 
Phait 
Not bad, but the squigly area above the beak makes it look crooked, and detracts the sense of mystery and malevolence a raven should have.

The writing is good though. I think it has potential. 
Phait 
Not bad, but the squigly area above the beak makes it look crooked, and detracts the sense of mystery and malevolence a raven should have.

The writing is good though. I think it has potential. 
Woot. 
Another "I only clicked submit once" double post o_O 
Pro Tips 
it should fit into the rectangualar shape and be less of ravensoft ripoff to become any good 
Thanks 
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I'll take a harder look at that and see what I can do.

Re: Speeds
Ravensoft... That's a royal assfuck because I had a previous design that went through the motions too - it was a side-profile shot and immediately people thought Ravensoft.

I don't know if it's the raven subject matter, or the raven-in-a-box style... I would highly prefer to keep the head-on view, but maybe I need to experiment with how it's sitting. I think Ravensoft's logo is a little overdetailed, though it seems to scale down alright. 
So 
if you don't want it to look like the ravensoft logo, don't limit yourself to cropping it to the raven's head. There's plenty of other angles and poses than headshots.

Are you thumbnailing out a few dozen of these and then picking the good ones or just starting a fully detailed logo cold and hoping for the best? 
Maybe 
the eyes could be bigger and more side-looking and bulged to make it more animaly and menacing... dunno. And maybe even such that
the pupils don't show, since in reality the raven's eyes are prettymuch black.
http://albums.laurenstravels.com/regents-park-birdlife/raven

but it'd probably not work, dunno... the current logo is too cartooningly amusing in my mind, it looks a bit like a human-style caricature. 
Like 
http://www.schmoker.org/BirdPics/Photos/Corvids/CORA__1.jpg
the eyes are canted, and it's much more evil :) 
A Few Variations 
- http://hosting.alanwake.net/tcf/jrlogo2.png
- http://hosting.alanwake.net/tcf/jrlogo3.png

I did only a few small sketches, nothing too substantial. Because I couldn't find good reference pics for a headon shot, this one was kinda hammered out - and also why it has some issues. Right now my biggest issue is the beak, I realised it's not the right perspective with the rest of the head. The eyes are almost there, but not quite yet.

Bambuz - that is 1 photo I've recently come across.

I want to avoid evil look, and moreso a bold look. It's inbetween. I prefer the headon because I think it can be engaging. 
Phait... 
...err, how do I contact you outside this board? 
Distrans 
Don't mean to sound like an ass but here's a tip to keep you from wondering next time:

Remove all characters starting at the end of the URL hosting.alanwake.net/tcf/jrlogo3.png until you get to the last /, which designates a directory (TCF) so:

http://hosting.alanwake.net/tcf/

And you would find my site, and a contact form :) 
Kell 
are you there? :P 
Necros 
I am here.

get on the hotdog :P 
SM119: Happiness In Slackery 
No theme and only two maps this week: Trinca discovered the power of cut'n'paste, while neg!ke offers a controversial approach to the concept of happiness.

Screenshots:
http://www.quaddicted.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_details/gid,930/Itemid,60/
Download:
http://www.quaddicted.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,930/Itemid,60/ 
Bleh 
yeah, func was lagging at the right time... again. 
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