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Oh Nice. 
This part shouldn't have been part of the quote:

Absolutely!... wrong! You'd be surprised how many people hate Shambler's guts. Of course, there are plenty of people who think he's infallible, too. Interestingly enough, though, there aren't really any people in between. 
Rpg 
I am curious as to how someone can hate his guts.
He is intelligent, well spoken, and a very driven person.
He also couples that with wits and a lot of common sense.

Also, I want to have his babies.

Or her, I�m not quite sure, it�s never been revealed, AFAIK. 
Well 
Or her, I�m not quite sure, it�s never been revealed, AFAIK.

He's made several references to his testicles swaying gently in the breeze, so I suppose he's either a male or a hermaphrodite.

I'll let you decide. 
Rpg 
you almost sidestepped the issue. why is it again that some people "hate" shambs? I don�t buy it.

And, are we sure the testicles in question does actually belong to shambler? Might be they are "trophies"? 
I'm In Between! 
I don't know squat about him. 
I'm In Between. 
His review site was a valuable focal point for the community. As far as shambler as a person, i've had very little interaction with him so i'm fairly neutral. 
Metl 
yeah, I�m not trying to imply I actually KNOW the man. I have read enough of his blah to form an opinion. But that is an opinion formed on someones blah - so it doesn�t mean jack.

But I like Shambler - the person behind I have no idea about.
Cybear, for example, I have met in real life - and thus I know a wee bit what he�s like. 
Wrath 
I was trying to avoid turning the GA thread into a personal attack/defense thread, and since I don't share their views, I can't accurately speak for them. But since you insist, I'll give you some wild speculation.

Some people probably dislike Shambler because they felt he deleted their supposedly legitimate threads on the old QMap, and started some questionable ones of his own. Others probably hate him because they feel he treated them illy on #terrafusion. There are probably others who think he presses his opinion on others too forcefully and is not willing to acknowledge others' opinions, no matter how valid. Some probably feel he is too hostile towards newbies who are susceptible to misinterpret his remarks.

I thought of at least another but it escapes me at the moment.

Like I hinted at, I am only speculating here. I cannot accurately speak for those whose opinions I do not share.

(erm was trying to find the quote of Shambler's swaying testicles but couldn't find the right one blah.) 
Wow 
I guess "some people" are in dire need of a soldering-iron eye-socket-fuck then.

Shambler - you should be mightily proud, all those people pissed off, and still you�re so young. So many possibilities ahead.

;) 
Oh 
We could all play the Enemy territory Test. people can dl it, and we"re all go. if somebody sets it all up, Ill show up. 
OI! 
and started some questionable ones of his own


I resent that! They were all good threads!

I can`t argue with the myriad of other virtues you pointed out... 
DAG, Metlslime! 
I watched L.A. Confidential last night and today when I checked your webby for news, I see this!

Remember kiddos, you heard it here first; off the record, on the Q.T., and strictly hush-hush. 
CyBeAr Day At John's 
SM17_Bear = BEST. SPEEDMAP. EVER. 
Beta-testing... 
Forgot to reply to this. Ummm what was the question again?? Oh yeah...

Maybe....possibly.Sometimes nice to do, but I have so many new games to think of I may not re-install Quake.

I dunno... 
Metlsline... 
...can you lose the daikatana symbol please!! 
So... 
any news on when qmap.org will be resurrected? 
Hmm 
There are 5 registered users online right now

"Lo" to you five peeps. 
Wrath 
you hate celephais already? :-P

heh, i dont wanna be goin through 2 separate forums with the same people. although it can be a bit of fun.. yea, like when i have 5 windows open and post in the wrong one.

there, daikatana for you sham. well, at least the textures in the game where good...and the music, a little 
Daft 
no, it was just that I figured metl was doing this as an interim until peej got back and could sort qmap out again. 
Maric (Re: Quake2 Help) 
what is your email address?
mine is netgames@netdp.com
Cheers.
Tronyn 
Ok Then... 
Ifno is on the way this very moment. I am looking forward to working/helping out in any way. I have been on a foced three week mapping/online-gaming vaction. Need to do that now and then to keep priorities in order... am back in the editor again now =) 
Title Goes Here 
I like Shambler because he`s opinionated, intelligent, and know`s his shit. He`s very elitist and sticks to the rules closely, which rubs many people the wrong way, esspecially when they`re being idiots and he tells them they are.

As for his "questionable" threads... I don`t seem to remember any. Any Shambler thread had a good topic that pretained to mapping or gaming in general, and was generally thought provoking. As for his deletion of threads... him and I only deleted the off topic; "public masturbation"; "hi how do i map 4 teh max pain!!!email me here" bullshit... why? because that`s the way the site was set up. But past is past, community attitudes have changed.

Personally, I hope when Qmap gets back on it`s feet, we`ll be able to move posts to where they belong, and close off-topic/flamewar/nondiscussion threads, instead of deleting, and have a proper FAQ/rules section that can evole with the community. oh, and I also hope to be able to use proper ` again... :D 
Whoa :o 
i`m pink! proper shrimp colors :D

(logged in IE) 
Scamp 
I dunno, flamewars have their charm too. Once in a while anyway.

A flame a day keeps the ass-hats away. 
Scampie 
Hello! And welcome to a dead topic! Would you care to comment on other dead topics, such as whether George Bush's election was legitimate or not?

*ahem*

You're defending someone who doesn't need defending. Let it rest. 
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