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Quake1 .def 
there's one bundled with sleepwalkr's mapcon
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/industri/mapcon_java.zip

this one has some tenebrae stuff in it apparently?
http://industri.sourceforge.net/txt/quake.def

It's just a text file. Negke, open it up and find info_notnull, and paste the brush info_notnull entity into there, without deleting the point info_notnull. Put a note inside the /* comment */ to remind yourself which is which, as there will be two entries in the entity list. Like this:

/*QUAKED info_notnull (0 0.5 0) ?

Invisible entity. Used for clever hacks.

*/
 
Ahaha Yeah You're Right! 
what a weiner! I just patched it up anyways, I think there were like 8 textures that needed alignment in the whole map.


thanks ricky, you're awesome! 
Spirit 
Interesting, I don't think I can do that though. I don't even have a taskbar, I use openbox :)

Not FUD, anyway. I'm not sure if you're aware that FUD has a super-negative meaning; I don't think my post deserved that. 
NP :D 
I have made the same mistake more times than I care to mention :S 
Grahf 
Thanks. Doesn't seem to work in 1.5, though. It only recognizes one entry per name.

I guess I'll have to go with Preach's suggestion for now (into_notnull_brush->find/replace). Because as it turned out, deleting the entry altogether works for info_notnull, but makes the program treat triggers like point ents. 
Backpack? 
Hey,

How do you make an ammo backpack in quake/quoth, and how do you set what goes in it...

can you put health in there?

Also

What is a good sound for a large, slowly spinning cog in quoth? I tried the one that goes with dias.wav, but it's not the best.
it's a big cog.

kind of like that one in sm156_necros... 
Hlwad 
I can't seem to convert wads to hlwad, I get this message...

Error creating HLWAD: c:\program files\worldcraft\textures\decon.hlwad ... details ...No log exists.

Error creating HLWAD: c:\program files\worldcraft\textures\zerst�rer.hlwad ... details ...No log exists.

I'm on win7 is that makes a difference.

Also is there a way to brighten the 3d view in Wc3.3

Thank you. 
Player Backpack And Ghost Medkit 
"classname" "info_notnull"
"think" "PlaceItem"
"nextthink" ".3"
"touch" "BackpackTouch"
"model" "progs/backpack.mdl"
"modelindex" "##"
// look it up on the edicts list
"ammo_shells" "##"
"ammo_nails" "##"
"ammo_rockets" "##"
"ammo_cells" "##"
// if 0, just leave the field out
"items" "##" // values from defs.qc, e.g. 32=RL
"netname" "abc" // for the 'You got the abc' message if weapons are given

For this to work properly in DP, you may need to add "maxs" "16 16 56".


Obviously, you can't give the player health through a backpack. But you can put an invisible medkit in the same spot so it gets picked up automatically.

"classname" "info_notnull"
"think" "PlaceItem"
"nextthink" ".3"
"touch" "health_touch"
"healtype" "#"
// 0 or 1 for <100, 2 for <250 (MH)
"healamount" "###"
"model" "maps/b_bh25.bsp"
// if precached - or use backpack/player.mdl instead for the bbox
Leaving the modelindex field out will make the item invisible, yet still functional.

Again, "maxs" "32 32 56" for DP and, if you want it not to play the health pickup sound, "noise" "misc/null.wav"
Quoth Compatibility 
Keep in mind though that Quoth 2 handles some of the models differently, which results in different modelindex values. So unless you add a Quoth detection system, a backpack that shows properly in id1 will use a different model in Quoth 2 (and vice versa, even though this isn't really a problem).

Also, the second "maxs" field in the post above should read "16 16 56" of course. 
Maxs 
Gah. Actually "32 32 56" is correct. 
Hrm 
what goes wrong in DP without maxs being set?

used backpacks for ammo in the speedmap i did earlier this week but didn't know about that 
 
I encountered an issue in my coag map where you couldn't pick up the item in DP if it didn't have the maxs field. However, I actually can't remember if it was a backpack or another item. I just tried another map that has a backpack without said field and it worked in DP. So I'm not sure if it was just something related to the DP build I used back then or a mistake on my part. Sorry for the confusion. 
Negke 
Awesome trick !!! 
Lol 
I tried to give the sewrpent a squaddamage backpack. Think I didn't knew it was a serpent.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/quaddama.jpg 
Then 
I copied the void()BackPackTouch and DropBackPack function as new in ITEMS.QC
as I couldn't see a skeleton dropping one.
Its own weapon makes more sense.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/backpak.jpg 
Cool Stuff 
 
 
would anyone be interested in like a gui that takes the place of a batch file?

i making one for myself, but if people want it, i'll make it pretty looking and bug test it. 
^^^ 
mm, i guess that's what i get for posting so late at night...
what i meant was a gui that compiles q1 maps. i would allow you to easily toggle stuff like -fast and such and move your files around and such. 
I'd Be Interested 
 
 
cool, maybe in like a couple of days. fyi, it's just visual basic, cause i don't actually know how to program. ^_^; 
Map Building On Linux 
Hi Guys,

I think this has been asked before but atm I can't find the answer...

Are there Quake Map Build tools that can be run on Linux?

Thanks,
jimbo 
 
Editors: Quest, Gtkradiant
Compilers: Bengt Jardrup's tools work fine on Wine. gb ported some of them to Linux once, but I don't have a link at hand. 
As Mentioned 
here's the compiler gui i was talking about...
instructions to use it are on this page:
http://shoresofnis.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/ne_q1spcompilinggui/

most of the stuff should be fairly obvious, but the 'instructions' are lengthy and pretty verbose. ask if anything explodes though. 
Looks Nice 
two things though..

the vis option should be 'level 4', not 'level4', get an error with the latter

'+map whatever' should just be added automatically behind the scenes rather than requiring to be typed in. if you've selected the 'run quake' option you probably aren't going to want to load a different map to the one you're compiling :)

and it needs an icon ;) 
Hrm 
thinking about it, that second thing should probably account for more than just mapname, and figure out the gamedir/path as well, based on what is set as the output folder. is that something that would be easy to do?

say if i keep my created bsps in id1/maps/other, it would do '+map other/[mapname]'

yet if someone decided to put them in quoth/maps/other, it could work out that '-game quoth +map other/[mapname]' would need to be entered... 
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