Rusty slab of table with metal grate in the Quake symbol where blood drains down, a chain across the top, and a Hello Kitty plush doll in the corner. 

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57427

Fuckin sweet. How's you like to give up your Nyarlothotep on that, inert??? :) 

http://tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=121305E 

... or blood soaked altar? It could have a few small bones scattered round the edges, and maybe a candle. The Quake symbol would be smeared out of the blood. Axe somewhere would be good too. Or Quake Guy's helmet. 

the helmet! What would the guy look like without it? It's like the kiss guys without masks or the phantom of the opera. What kind of hair (if any) does he have?
Intriguing.

And it must include wizmet. 

...well done! I'm using Doom, but only until you give us the Quake alter described by Text_Fish :)

I loved the coherence! 

Make a contract revoked wallpaper, with the contract on a wooden table. Splatter it with blood and general grime, make the signature in blood glow and have a few candles melted themselves to the table, also some shotgun shells and nails can be spread out across it. 

when will Killtron reveal his plans to launch his own console? Seems like hte next logical step.

careful, he'll sue you for slander 

I wrote an article on the above here:
http://jkohli.blogspot.com/2005/12/entertainment-of-violence.html

I decided not to post as a discussion thread because we have discussion nazis. 

func_msgboard is mentioned in this months Pc Powerplay in the MODLIFE section. Talks about that thread we had where there was all the fighting between coders and mapps. :) 

Links and/or scans please! 

:-p 

 

I'll scan it up later, it's not very long but it was just interesting to see that thread mentioned. 

Anyone here, by chance, happen to have my old ICQ number in their contact list? I'd like to ressurect it to keep work messaging and friends separate. 

Is this related to you complaining in chat that id know your im number? :) 

I mailed it to you in case you didn't want it public. 

Cybear, who takes home a properly capitalized name worth over seven million euros. 

I noticed a post on Shacknews regarding what Infinity War, Makers of CoD are doing now. I thought briefly about CoD3 and then posted a short rant about the portrayal of war in videogames. I re-read it after posting and realised that as I probably won't get anything but fanboys telling me how awesome CoD is, I thought I should pop it up here for quick discussion.

If they end up making a CoD 3 (haha, like they won't - it's guaranteed to make $$$) I really hope they don't just make the same game again with new locations and a few tweaks. I really hope that someone will take the WW2 FPS game and approach it with more maturity. I want a developer that gets rid of this stupid good vs bad shit and tries to show what war is really like from both sides, and adds real personality to the soldiers, rather than just throwing cannon fodder at the enemy AI to make it look like you are fighting in a war. What I would like to see most is that GERMAN SOLDIERS WERE NOT ALL FUCKING NAZIS. For Gods sake, how hard can it be to at least let the players empathize with them and show that they were having just as shitty a time as the allies.

I am not German (British actually) but ffs, why do we have to have such a stupid black and white portrayal of soldiers in a war. Obviously, it's not just CoD that does this, but we are often trying to say that games can compete on an intellectual level with literature and film, yet our war games feel like fucking Independance Day. Sure, if you are setting your game in a fantasy wolrd it's fine to have the good guys all good and the bad guys all bad (not that you have to, of course), but in a supposedly realistic portrayal of the greatest war in history, where millions upon millions lost their lives, you might at least try to show that it's not just some fucking goon running through a few towns shooting nazis and saving mankind.

Rant over.

Does anyone else think that it's time all these fucking stupid ass WW2 fps games stopped, and someone got some balls and tried to make a much more mature war game? The closest thing I have seen FPS-wise is Vietcong, although it's still pretty much shooting "GOOOOOOKS!" all the time. 

it's never going to happen.

and vietcong sort of worked as coop, not as sp which is primarily what cod is. 

it's never going to happen.

and vietcong sort of worked as coop, not as sp which is primarily what cod is. 

Why is it impossible that a developer will, at some point in the future, possibly in the next five years, create a WW2 FPS that is fun, yet at the same time doesn't glorify war or misrepresent those involved? You might not think it can happen, but I believe it will happen at some point.

This is one thing that drives me nuts. Sure, CoD might be fun, and the developer/publisher might claim that it is an authentic and realistic portrayal of war. However, they can't even begin to give their audience an idea of what war is like - it's almost like like saying love is all hugs and kisses. Fucking bullshit. I'm sick of it, and won't be buying any war games that claim to be realistic unless they start to address this problem.

Wolfenstein is fine, of course - it's fantasy, and doesn't pretend to be realistic or state that level x is an accurate representation of the spot where some glider landed. The glider might be in the right place, but I'm sure all those funnels and clip brushes weren't there in 1944.

By the way, no, I don't think that I know what war is like from watching a few war films, but the majority of films based on WW2 at least show the suffering of the people fighting the war, the civilians, and to some extent... the naz... sorry, Germans. 

You made me pregnant 

Obviously you won't get a game that gives an accurate impression of war, because most of the time war is fucking miserable and I don't want to be made to feel fucking miserable when I'm playing a game. But hell, even leaving the game content alone and adding a drop more maturity to the backstory would leave a better taste in the mouth. 

So true. =(
They should make a war game that is to other war games what the Thin Red Line is to average war films.