Refreshing Mapping Skills...
#9253 posted by ziffon on 2010/01/01 15:01:24
Wow, I never thought the quake mapping community was still kicking. I've decided to finish my old quake1 DM level which has been sitting on my HD since early 2003. It's a great and pleasant surprise to see there are still enthusiasts to share mapping experiance with :D
Anyway, as I'm trying to relearn everything I've stumbled across an issue. I cannot get the teleporter to work. Everything seems to be correct but I get this error message when loading the level.
Object error in info_teleport_destination:
No targetname
In the map file I have:
Target_teleporter
Target tele1
and
Info_teleport_destination
Targetname tele1
I use GTK radiant 1.2.x something and Sleepwalkers mapconv tool.
Any ideas?
And a happy new year to all of you :D
I Think Its
#9254 posted by RickyT33 on 2010/01/01 15:36:12
"classname" "trigger_teleport"
"target" "XXXXX"
Also...
#9255 posted by metlslime on 2010/01/01 21:59:42
Make sure it's all lowercase
Got It...
#9256 posted by ziffon on 2010/01/02 19:30:53
Human error this time :P
Thanks for the replys.
And while I'm at it I might just throw you another question :) I want to make a lift that travels up only when a button is pressed. I get everything to work, but the lift starts behaving differently when connecting the func_button to the func_plat obj. Without the button connected the lift starts in "down" mode and raises when a player walks over it. However, when the button is connected the lift starts in the "up" mode. Then goes down when I trigger the button. AND after that it starts behaving as if it wasnt connected to the button. wtf?!
Any help here would be appreciated. I know it's possible to do this :) For example it works in the "Pinion1" map.
Thanks again guys.
Ziffon
#9257 posted by spy on 2010/01/02 20:16:04
you have to use func_door instead, not a func_plat
Yeah
#9258 posted by RickyT33 on 2010/01/02 21:09:52
You have to have a door which travels "up", cant remember the exact map file key/value of the top of my head.
You can have it travel a negatve or positive value "up" to 256 or 512 units. And theres a spawnflag for "toggle" (1 press, door opens, another press it will close). An you can link as many buttons or triggers to it as you like :D
*theres A Maximum Value
#9259 posted by RickyT33 on 2010/01/02 21:10:40
its either 256 or 512 - thats what I meant
Huh?
#9260 posted by negke on 2010/01/02 21:16:26
A door can move as far as you want - there is no maximum value. The distance is determined by its "lip" value.
Fixed!
#9261 posted by ziffon on 2010/01/02 21:43:57
thx for the quick response mate.
Sorry for spamming the board but any ideas on why I cant get the quad to spawn in? I use the "item_artifact_super_damage".
Also, while I'm at it.. the map is pretty much ready for some testing. Back in the days it was pretty easy to get some help with that, but how do you suggest I go about it today. Can I use this board somehow?
Cheers
Yeah
#9262 posted by spy on 2010/01/02 21:51:47
to quad to appear, item_artifact_super_damage must be placed. w/o any SF
btw, is it your maps safe1 and safe2?
#9263 posted by negke on 2010/01/02 21:53:04
The item ist most likely too close to a wall or the ceiling (has to be 60 units) and thus falls out of the level. Load the map in developer mode ("developer 1" in the console) and you'll see a warning message if that's the case.
If you're looking for beta testers, post a note in the Screenshots & Betas thread.
#9264 posted by ziffon on 2010/01/02 22:03:46
Spy: what do you mean with w/o SF?
Yes, I made safe1 and 2 and 3 is pretty much done now as well :P
Oh, developer mode :) Didn't know about that one. Going to try it out now.
Developer Mode Rocks :D
#9265 posted by ziffon on 2010/01/02 22:10:53
Thx, that really helped! Found a DM spawn point outside the level which for some reason caused the quad to not spawn.. odd.. but it works now :D
Beta Ready
#9266 posted by ziffon on 2010/01/02 23:38:07
well, beta is ready now :) Thanks for all the quick responses. I'll make a post on the beta board later.
Code Question
#9267 posted by JneeraZ on 2010/01/09 15:11:10
So say you had a bunch of quad damages in the room. Currently, they will all rotate exactly the same direction and start at the same angle so they are all perfectly in sync.
Is there a way in QuakeC to start them at random angles or change the rotation speed or do anything, really, to break it up and make it look more natural?
Randomiser
#9268 posted by Preach on 2010/01/09 15:20:39
I'd add
self.angles_y = random() * 360;
to the spawn function. This would randomise the angle they face initially, which should make them look better differentiated.
You could also set .movetype to MOVETYPE_NOCLIP and then give them an angular velocity:
self.movetype = MOVETYPE_NOCLIP;
self.avelocity_y = 10 - 20 * random();
I wouldn't recommend this though, because it entirely eliminates the benefit of the client-side rotation built into the model. You'll have constant network updates of the rotation, which seems a bit excessive for the feature. So I'd vote for option 1, but that's how either could be achieved .
#9269 posted by JneeraZ on 2010/01/09 16:09:22
"self.angles_y = random() * 360; "
Well, I tried that but no luck. I also tried putting that into a one shot think function that executed a second after spawning but that didn't work either. I'm currently thinking that the model is being rotated in the cached model itself and then every time it renders, they all pull from that same value or something?
#9270 posted by JneeraZ on 2010/01/09 16:09:54
I should note that I've created a new item using the quad damage model so it's not the ACTUAL quad damage that I'm dealing with here. If that matters...
Interesting
#9271 posted by Preach on 2010/01/09 16:31:11
Looks like the rotate flag overrides whatever angle you set in qc or the map. The only alternatives are either to remove the rotate flag from the model, and do the rotation using self.avelocity, or to create several frames within the model each with different rotations of the model, and randomise between those frames on spawn.
#9272 posted by JneeraZ on 2010/01/09 16:50:19
Bah! OK, thanks. :)
Stupid
#9273 posted by madfox on 2010/01/10 16:01:39
Installed Quake on an old win98 computer.
A little curious I couldn't get higher video resolution then 320 x480.
So I decided to install the update 1.08 but this didn't help.
So I installed the SOA pak to see, which also didn't help.
Then Fitzquake or glquake but they start up like mud.
How do I get my quake off the phone resolution?
#9274 posted by rudl on 2010/01/10 17:38:44
the update 1.08 is dos only
get the 1.06
Try winquake?
Limited Resolution
#9275 posted by madfox on 2010/01/12 00:30:44
It has something to do with the video option screen.
Normally after installing quake it offers a resolution from 320x240 to 800x600, but for some reason the max only goes to 480x320.
#9276 posted by necros on 2010/01/12 01:02:03
maybe a dumb question, but just how old is this old win98 computer? it's possible the video card doesn't support the higher resolutions? can you find out what kind of video card it has (if any)?
Er
#9277 posted by necros on 2010/01/12 01:03:15
well, that last question was retarded... it obviously has some kind of video card, what i actually meant was if it had 3d acceleration of if it was one of those ancient ones.
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