Saves me �40 for now then. Will keep dicking around trying to learn WASD, if I can without getting bored out of my mind, I'll pick DS3 up on sale and tip you half the difference. 

It's been fine for me, but I'm only an hour in. 

strange style choice. I suppose it worked for Blood Dragon, STRAFE and Kung Fury. Gotta cash in on those 'I existed in the 80's' internet points.

The cinematic trailer is rad, though. 

STRAFE advertising is 90's themed. my bad. 

So contrary to popular belief I started playing DS3. Daz was a bit over-optimistic with "ur keybindings will work apart from mouse button movement" - I got GlovePIE to remap the mouse controls but none of the buttons around [ ] ' # etc will be accepted no matter what they're rebound to, so I've had to sift everything a few keys to the left which is kinda annoying but it is playable and actually good practise for getting a laptop as I'd need to be over to the left anyway. So yeah I can play the fucking thing.

The fact the menus and everything still keep the controller buttons is a fucking disgrace. Don't any of the devs actually own PCs??

So far it runs pretty well on a i3 / 6gb / GTX660 2gb. A bit slow loading up some scenes but I'm getting 30-40 fps constant. This is on Medium....but it still looks amazing on that. This is why it's worth persisting through all the bollox, I'm, I dunno, 4 bonfires in and the scenery is stunning. Yay.

Anyway.

Took me about 6 goes to get past the first boss. The first bonfire is about 15 seconds dash before that so that's not too stupid. I found it a lot easier without the target lock on, I think I got lucky with the 2nd phase tho. Then I found the shrine and levelled up and ended up in a fucking spectacular castle and went one way past loads of goons and there was a fucking enormous dragon that suddenly torched everything in sight so fuck that homie so I went another way and one of the goons spontaneously erupted into some black oozing cockslug monster and fuck that too so I went back to the dragon and it was still there so I went back to the shrine and explored around and there was some fucking nobber with a katana that killed me instantly so fuck him too and I went back to the slugcock goon and killed him before he, errr, erected and got a longbow I can't fucking use so back to the dragon and realised I could get past him and then a knight killed me and then.....stuff. You get the picture. 

Don't any of the devs actually own PCs??

They would be developing on PCs that have controllers plugged into the PCs. 

Just run past it. That's usually the idea. It worked for me 

10/10 post 

http://i.imgur.com/WDoIzwH.jpg 

Checked out Dark Messiah of Might and Magic again recently, pretty neat. Why has this kind of thing not taken on more ? First person melee dungeon crawling is awesome with a half decent combat system.

Good news is it seems Techland is getting back to working on Hellraid. 

I agree, it is pretty neat. Also, super pumped about Hellraid. 

Give Vermintide a go, this has a great melee system and super fun gameplay. 

Fantastic game, nothing else really like it and also pumped about Hellraid. 

https://twitter.com/romero/status/722903267735240705

Romero and Adrian Carmack, back together on something dark and violent which uses keyboard and mouse. 

 

 

I hope it doesn't turn out to be some kickstarter bollocks. 

The Return - our saviors ?

FifthElephant - I have Vermintide and quickly got disappointed - its a reskinned Left 4 Dead :(

I love coop but somehow I hate the whole Left 4 Dead type of thing. Its so formulaic in the end, poison dude, grabby dude rinse and repeat rinse and repeat.

Very arcadey in that sense I guess, which I also occasionally like for coffee break coop games, but there it doesn't really work for me. 

Yes really good game and pity there isn't more of it.

L4D2 was awesome of course. Verminitide good but not as much fun and quite unforgiving.

Killes if you can dig 3PS fantasy too try Enclave. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qiia9r6Rrk

What do we thing??

Graphics look great. Setting looks cool. Monsters look entertaining.

Combat looks kinda ass?? Pure-batman style and I think the camera perspective would piss me off... 

We think that calling it a gameplay trailer is a joke. 

.... a bad mix in between Mad Max and DeusX.. meh ! 

Looks like Treyarch is going to make good on the Black Ops 3 mod tools, they're doing a closed test of the tools now. Community members are showing little things they've thrown together in the past few days. Not seen any editor shots yet, but presumably it's all still an updated Radiant. 

And posted slightly prematurely, someone has posted more thorough thoughts here: http://mappersunited.com/index.php?/topic/297-alpha-modtools-first-impression-features/