Grahf
#8962 posted by JPL on 2009/08/14 09:42:51
Indeed, the editor is not relevant, however for some reason, sometimes during .map generation, it can generate weird stuff.... anyway, the fact it is a Mac porting is certainely the issue.
You may should try with TxQBSP instead, or move to a PC... :(
#8963 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/14 14:07:12
The fact that it's a Mac port should actually have very little to do with it. I use that version of it all the time and it works fine for me. I can't imagine what the issue is here...
Definitely try another version of QBSP and see what happens. If it's my fault, that's fine, I'll fix it - but I'm having a hard time buying it at this point in time. :P
Mac-hate Is Digital Racism
#8964 posted by negke on 2009/08/14 14:21:51
#8965 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/14 14:51:29
Grahf
Email me the MAP file and the WAD you're using (preferably something reasonably small) and I'll try compiling it myself. Should be easy to track down what's going on...
Upgrading Is Digital Genocide
#8966 posted by ijed on 2009/08/14 15:35:10
#8967 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/15 12:22:41
Ahh OK, grahf has a PowerPC machine. I don't believe these tools are set up for big/little endian swapping. I believe the tools are currently Intel only.
I'll put that on my task list. :)
Doh!
#8968 posted by grahf on 2009/08/15 19:11:30
I had a feeling that might be the cause of my problems. Thanks for looking into it anyways.
#8969 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/15 21:13:10
I'm working on it. It might be easy and it might not be. I'll know more by the time the weekend is out. For now, you could compile in a Windows machine by using Parallels or something ... or just use a regular version of QBSP for now.
Some Basic Questions
#8970 posted by anonymous user on 2009/08/16 20:45:15
I have a door but the angles 135 and 315 don't seem to work. Am I stupid ????
And how can I make a trigger that makes another trigger operational?
Re 8970
#8971 posted by necros on 2009/08/16 21:05:47
1. not sure, can't say i recall having any problems with those angles.
try 134 and 314? could just be those specific angles or the door could be linking with others. check that each door's bounding box isn't intersecting another.
2. short answer, you can't.
long answer, you can.
make an info_notnull but as a brush entity. (make it a trigger_once and rename classname to 'info_notnull'.
make a 'think' key and set it to InitTrigger.
make a 'nextthink' key and set it to '0.5'
make a 'use' key and set it to 'trigger_once' or 'trigger_multiple'
now set targetname.
set up any other relevant stuff like message or delay or whatever.
when you trigger this thing, it will turn into a normal trigger but will not do anything before.
Thanks For The Quick Reply
#8972 posted by rudl on 2009/08/16 21:19:33
1. 134 and 314 don't seem to work properly either.
I uploaded a testmap where I have this problem:
http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/misc/door.map.zip
2. Thanks I will try that :)
#8973 posted by necros on 2009/08/16 23:21:22
try fudging it by giving the broken doors negative 'lip' values.
#8974 posted by rudl on 2009/08/16 23:31:25
That seems to do the trick :)
#8975 posted by necros on 2009/08/17 01:34:06
you know what would be wild?
make a program that will load a bsp file that has had it's vis information calculated and somehow allow you to manually set which portals are visible from other portals.
Necros
#8976 posted by JPL on 2009/08/17 17:47:04
make a program that will load a bsp file that has had it's vis information calculated and somehow allow you to manually set which portals are visible from other portals.
Pure nightmare !!
#8977 posted by Rick on 2009/08/17 20:05:45
Or how about a program that would let you directly edit the light map? Could be useful for fixing those odd errors you get sometimes or just for creating some interesting effects.
#8978 posted by necros on 2009/08/17 20:35:20
not really directly editing, but it would be awesome if you could both assign a bitmap image as a light pattern on a spot light as well as be able to specify 'noise' on both sunlight, minlight and normal lights.
Editing The Light
#8979 posted by Preach on 2009/08/17 21:54:45
Probably the best way to create a program for editing the lights would be a custom engine. Just add the ability to "paint" by applying a dynamic light to the scene which gets written to the lightmaps fully. Then add the ability to save those back into the bsp. Only problem is that you'd have no way of restoring those edits to the bsp next time you compiled. Unless you recorded a demo of yourself doing it...
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#8980 posted by negke on 2009/08/17 23:42:27
I Love Posting This Link.
#8981 posted by grahf on 2009/08/18 04:38:36
Whenever someone says, "wouldn't it be cool if quake had..." chances are decent that pOx's eUtils has done it.
http://quake.chaoticbox.com/
I quote from the readme:
Tyrlite+ contains support for OpenQuartz ( http://openquartz.sourceforge.net ) LIGHT noise extensions. These allow you to apply noise algorithms when lighting a level to break up common color-banding problems, or acheive more "organic" looking lightmaps. The following attributes have been added to the eUtils Quiver defs for all lights:
"Noise Level" (_noise) accepts a floating point value from 0-1.0 (0 is no noise). You can "overexpose" the noise with values greater than 1.0, but the effect is usually undesireable (values of 0.5 or less are best for subtle effects).
"Noise Type" (_noisetype) can be set to 0 (Random), 1 (Smooth), or 2 (Perlin).
"Noise Resolution" (_resolution) controls the size or scaling of the effect. Higher numbers make the end effect larger (lower detail).
"Perlin Noise Persistence" (_persistence) This controls the perlin noise decay per octave.
You can use the "-noise" switch from the commandline to add random noise to all lights, but note that you cannot currently use noise on Global lights (Sunlight or Minlight).
Too bad it doesn't do noise on sunlight, pretty sweet otherwise though. Presumably you could get the code straight from OpenQuartz, but their hasn't-been-updated-in-five-years website wasn't terribly helpful.
That's Cool
#8982 posted by necros on 2009/08/18 05:47:11
i guess you could rephrase my above post as 'wouldn't it be cool if someone haxored pox's stuff into aguirRe's utils? :P
Mac OS 9 & Mac OS X (PPC) Compatible
#8983 posted by Spirit on 2009/08/18 08:34:34
wouldn't it be cool if it was cross-platform?
Hmm...
#8984 posted by metlslime on 2009/08/18 11:38:16
I thought all the id code handled byte swapping, could be mistaken though.
Autosaving
#8985 posted by necros on 2009/08/18 22:38:13
we've discussed this before, but i have no idea where it went...
i wanted to implement this for my next map, and i was thinking:
send console command save ne_autosave
and in a config file bind f8 "load ne_autosave"
f8, afaik, doesn't do anything and it's both close and seperate from f9.
opinions?
#8986 posted by metlslime on 2009/08/18 23:03:29
can you use stuffcmd to load the game as well as save it? that would be better. (i.e. when user hits "jump" or "shoot" while dead, instead of doing the normal thing, the quakec would trigger a load then.)
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