#8953 posted by necros on 2009/08/13 10:21:58
yep. i'm currently running a test with vis -level 1.
if that's enough to keep things smooth, i can stand not having super accurate vis calculations.
there's something wierd though, because i seem to be getting strange behaviour with the timer.
elapsed time is incorrect saying 34 minutes when it has been running for over 2 hours...
the estimate at level 1 is only 3 hours, but if the timer isn't working, than likely nothing it's outputting is correct... i'll see what it's like tomorow, i suppose...
Sure
#8954 posted by ijed on 2009/08/13 15:59:51
But this is a big negke space map.
Timer
#8955 posted by grahf on 2009/08/13 17:18:00
maybe the elapsed time readout is based on actual cpu tics used for vis, not real-world elapsed time?
#8956 posted by necros on 2009/08/13 19:05:21
i doubt it because that doesn't really make any sense for aguire to code it that way. besides, i've used his vis for lots of maps and never had anything weird like that happen.
trying again with -level 2 and it seems to be working properly now.
Blah, Update
#8957 posted by grahf on 2009/08/13 21:31:30
I put one texture on all brushes in the map, "wad" = "knave.wad" in worldspawn, and still this:
*** ERROR 37: Failure seeking to 471762432 in file knave.wad
I imported the whole map into a new file, and still the same. I even tried on a completely different map. If there are no wadfiles in worldspawn, it will compile. If there are valid wadfiles specified, qbsp will fail. Either there is something really fucked on my end, or there is a problem with the Mac port. Sorry to bother you all, I'm gonna go bawww at Willem now.
#8958 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/13 21:38:49
If that WAD file is loading into your editor correctly then there's no reason it shouldn't work in QBSP. Weird.
Grahf
#8959 posted by JPL on 2009/08/13 21:43:09
Which editor are you using ?
I'm Not Sure The Editor Used Is Directly Relevant, But
#8960 posted by grahf on 2009/08/13 23:32:27
it's gtkradiant 1.4 on mac os x 10.4. I convert the map file to q1 format with sleepy's java map converter. I would be using Willem's excellent Toetag, but it rendered my stupidly big map at molasses speeds on this old hardware.
In qbsp's source code, warnerr.h, I see that there is an "errSeekFailure" which is obviously what I'm getting. When and where would this be called?
I've tried several wads, most straight from quaddicted and a few I've assembled myself, all giving the same error.
Actually, I just had the horrifying thought that it could be failing to seek because my hard drive is dying. Yikes. Though I haven't noticed any other similar problems.
#8961 posted by negke on 2009/08/14 08:58:24
Oh, I didn't realize it was a Mac port. In this case you, can put all the blame on Willum. Is there any other compatible QBSP you could try, perhaps with a Windows emulator? Doesn't MacRadiant save to .map or why do you have to use that converter?
Grahf
#8962 posted by JPL on 2009/08/14 09:42:51
Indeed, the editor is not relevant, however for some reason, sometimes during .map generation, it can generate weird stuff.... anyway, the fact it is a Mac porting is certainely the issue.
You may should try with TxQBSP instead, or move to a PC... :(
#8963 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/14 14:07:12
The fact that it's a Mac port should actually have very little to do with it. I use that version of it all the time and it works fine for me. I can't imagine what the issue is here...
Definitely try another version of QBSP and see what happens. If it's my fault, that's fine, I'll fix it - but I'm having a hard time buying it at this point in time. :P
Mac-hate Is Digital Racism
#8964 posted by negke on 2009/08/14 14:21:51
#8965 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/14 14:51:29
Grahf
Email me the MAP file and the WAD you're using (preferably something reasonably small) and I'll try compiling it myself. Should be easy to track down what's going on...
Upgrading Is Digital Genocide
#8966 posted by ijed on 2009/08/14 15:35:10
#8967 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/15 12:22:41
Ahh OK, grahf has a PowerPC machine. I don't believe these tools are set up for big/little endian swapping. I believe the tools are currently Intel only.
I'll put that on my task list. :)
Doh!
#8968 posted by grahf on 2009/08/15 19:11:30
I had a feeling that might be the cause of my problems. Thanks for looking into it anyways.
#8969 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/15 21:13:10
I'm working on it. It might be easy and it might not be. I'll know more by the time the weekend is out. For now, you could compile in a Windows machine by using Parallels or something ... or just use a regular version of QBSP for now.
Some Basic Questions
#8970 posted by anonymous user on 2009/08/16 20:45:15
I have a door but the angles 135 and 315 don't seem to work. Am I stupid ????
And how can I make a trigger that makes another trigger operational?
Re 8970
#8971 posted by necros on 2009/08/16 21:05:47
1. not sure, can't say i recall having any problems with those angles.
try 134 and 314? could just be those specific angles or the door could be linking with others. check that each door's bounding box isn't intersecting another.
2. short answer, you can't.
long answer, you can.
make an info_notnull but as a brush entity. (make it a trigger_once and rename classname to 'info_notnull'.
make a 'think' key and set it to InitTrigger.
make a 'nextthink' key and set it to '0.5'
make a 'use' key and set it to 'trigger_once' or 'trigger_multiple'
now set targetname.
set up any other relevant stuff like message or delay or whatever.
when you trigger this thing, it will turn into a normal trigger but will not do anything before.
Thanks For The Quick Reply
#8972 posted by rudl on 2009/08/16 21:19:33
1. 134 and 314 don't seem to work properly either.
I uploaded a testmap where I have this problem:
http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/misc/door.map.zip
2. Thanks I will try that :)
#8973 posted by necros on 2009/08/16 23:21:22
try fudging it by giving the broken doors negative 'lip' values.
#8974 posted by rudl on 2009/08/16 23:31:25
That seems to do the trick :)
#8975 posted by necros on 2009/08/17 01:34:06
you know what would be wild?
make a program that will load a bsp file that has had it's vis information calculated and somehow allow you to manually set which portals are visible from other portals.
Necros
#8976 posted by JPL on 2009/08/17 17:47:04
make a program that will load a bsp file that has had it's vis information calculated and somehow allow you to manually set which portals are visible from other portals.
Pure nightmare !!
#8977 posted by Rick on 2009/08/17 20:05:45
Or how about a program that would let you directly edit the light map? Could be useful for fixing those odd errors you get sometimes or just for creating some interesting effects.
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