oh god... i think i'd rather die for co2 poisoning. :( 

I think you should release dm5 and dm6 separately because dm3 and dm7 were seperate also. 

Made some good progress with dm5rmx. Will probably refine the lighting and brushwork a little more, but it's pretty much done. Working on gameplay at the moment (probably should have done this FIRST)

http://i.imgur.com/vU5eK.jpg

TL: dual layer corridor top
TR: dual layer corridor bottom
BL: inside the cistern
BR: one of the new areas

dmr3rmx is still the closest conversion I've done. I think it will probably stay that way; This one is pretty different beyond the original layout still existing amongst all the new stuff.

I tried to give the feeling of bounced light a lot on this map, so I used quite a lot of low intensity lights with falloff values set between 0.125 and 0.5 to eliminate hard black shadows where they felt unnatural. Still don't want to use coloured light though :) 

The bright pools of light in soft shadows look awesome imo :) 

If Negke's bad dark cistern sections of DM5 were like the rusty mechanical version, these shots seem to show a more updated hi-tech version. As ZQF says, the lighting looks great. I like the green/copper/blue palette. 

Crane smash

Ignore dodgy textures in the lower bits 

I'm probably going to flip the sky from very dark to bright and use it to outline distant buildings etc. Lighting it is a bit of a git :/ 

You guys are all making such awesome maps... I'm really feeling mapping withdrawal lately. :P 

I like these shots much better! 

u rock, looks amazing! also not using colored lights is very much approved. 

looking cool. The lighting is quite old school and Quakey. Seems like it is a large map from the shots. What mod are you using for the forcefields? Quoth, Hipnotic or something else? 

pretty sure maps with coloured lights work fine without the .lit files installed.. might be a bit brighter but not much an issue if the colour is subtle enough

looking forward to both these maps! 

Please play on easy or normal and tell me what you think. Hard is quite different and pretty brutal.

Copy this into your Quoth folder OH GOD DO IT NOW
Map name is 'zqfarrival04a'

-Issues-
I cba fixing this shit right now as I want this final gameplay feedback :P

> Second jumpy bit has barely been detailed and looks pants.
> Only the first shield wall toggle makes a sound.
> Quite a few areas have no apparent light sources.
> Lots of random bits with wrong/misaligned textures, or flat out no attention given yet
> Coloured lights clash badly in a few places. Pretty much every area needs a lighting rejig anyway. Delete the lit if it makes your eyeballs explode.
> Several areas have an audible 'thump' as spawned monsters hit the floor.
> Sometimes monsters take a bit too long to enter an arena.
> Message texts abruptly stop after the first arena. I'm not sure how much I like it so I'll probably remove all of it.
> Bunch of rockets in a secret fall through the floor. What an asshole.

Oh, there's 11 secrets. I will try to add more. 

Heh I forgot to mention yet that version is fast vis'd and fast lit.

Here's the raw BSP file for Ricky :P
http://www.zealousquakefan.com/beta/zqfarrival04a_rawbsp.zip 

Send me that and I'll vis it :) 

ah okay. I've never compiled via command line directly just through tools :P

http://www.zealousquakefan.com/beta/zqfarrival04a_rawbsp.prt 

That throws an error. 'cannot read header' or something. Doesn't make sense. Email me the map file, cause I don't know why but those two files aren't working for me. Sorry dude 

Chrome was fucking with the prt file I think... 

Cool :) 

That's cos Chrome is arse 

But it opened the prt like a txt file. Then I saved it from there. Right-clicing the link and saving like that however worked fine.

On another note, Chrome is pretty fast. 

Played on easy. Nice complex map
I hope it'll full vis ok 

Winged Doom is working on something http://j2h.ru/ 

What mod are you using for the forcefields?
They're just Quoth togglewalls with the particle effects on... which actually I think are just from hypnotic aren't they? :E 

Skill 1:

Really needs removing lots of superfluous enemies. I've lost count of how often there was a pair of Grunts/Enforcers waiting behind a door when only one would have sufficed.

The togglewalls spawn so little particles it was hard to tell what's a forcefield and what isn't. Most of them can't even be toggled on/off so why not just use walls or railings?

Stopped being fun around the respawning Quad+Cross area. Sniping with the puny nailgun while getting bitten in the ass by dogs is annoying.

No SNG or PG, or even the Hammer?

The early areas had Ruined Nation levels of detail and the late ones looked like boxes in comparison, which is weird since it's the late ones I remember from videos and screenshots and etc.

All the scripting stuff was good. The crane was great, would have been much better if I could catch a glimpse of it beforehand, somehow.

Gonna sounds harsh but I think you could probably cut everything after the GK door and you would have a much better map on your hands.