Rudl
#8707 posted by Orl on 2009/06/25 22:07:32
Like what, exactly?
The only thing I can think of is aero, and aero has no conflict with Worldcraft, as old as it is.
Orl
#8708 posted by Lardarse on 2009/06/26 00:45:27
Radiant needs desktop compositing to be turned off to work properly in Vista. This will disable Aero while the program is running. Recent versions of NetRadiant do this automatically. You never know, it might work...
Lardarse
#8709 posted by Orl on 2009/06/26 01:37:53
But I'm not using Radiant. I am using Worldcraft 1.6.
But alright, I'll accept the fact that there is no fix for this, and that Nvidia is solely to blame. This is not a Vista issue in any way, Worldcraft works perfectly fine in Vista. This is Nvidia's doing.
I Blame
#8710 posted by meTch on 2009/06/26 01:53:27
society caused this, Orl.
Destroy Vista
#8711 posted by PuLSaR on 2009/06/26 03:36:10
I'm drunk, я пьян, блин это просто пипец с телефона сидеть тут, особенно по пьяне
Orl
#8712 posted by negke on 2009/06/26 09:19:08
I can't use old drivers forever
Do you have an older card? If so, using the latest drivers is not always recommendable.
It
#8713 posted by ijed on 2009/06/26 14:12:57
Upgrade to WC3.3?
If both ATI and Nvidia have problems then it seems stupid to blame two different companies - maybe the software architecture is just bad.
Negke And Ijed
#8714 posted by Orl on 2009/06/26 15:08:59
My current card is an 8800gt, only about 2 years old. Why wouldn't upgrading to the latest drivers be a good idea?
I haven't tried WC 1.6 with an ATI card, do you know if it has the same problem, or a similar problem?
Let Face It Here:
#8715 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/06/26 15:30:35
WC 1.6 is a very old program, designed for Windows98. In WC3.3 I have occasionally encountered a bug where you cant select faces in the 3D view, and you can then only grag the view around in the 2D views and cant select anything. Rebooting the computer fixes the error. I always use the latest drivers for my 8800 card, in XP32. Forceware 186.16 is the current stable build, and works fine for me.
Orl - I recommend you make the transition to 3.3 because it has many other improvements over 1.6/1.6a, i.e. texture lock works properly etc
Orl
#8716 posted by negke on 2009/06/27 10:05:35
Because at some point drivers tend to put the focus on new(er) cards and contain changes that may result in worse performance (or even glitches) for old(er) ones. So sometimes it's wise to stick with an older version if it works fine (and if newer ones don't seem to bring any visible gain).
I don't know how it is with a 8800gt (or two year-old cards) - it takes a bit of experimenting with driver version.
WC3.3
#8717 posted by ijed on 2009/06/27 14:38:58
Is worth the change overall. The texture control is a huge bonus.
It has its quirks, but you get used to them. The only ballache is converting the textures, that is automated thanks to Baker's pack, but when it doesn't work it's frustrating.
Couple Of Questions About Skip Tool
#8718 posted by necros on 2009/06/27 20:09:16
skip textured brushes cast shadows?
skip can be run after aguire's q1 tools?
#8719 posted by negke on 2009/06/27 20:16:36
Yes.
Yes.
Sweet
#8720 posted by necros on 2009/06/27 21:25:38
going to build a shadow mesh for a large door out of skip then.
... except that i just realized... skip will cause the interior to be void... when the origin of the door travels through the skip brush, it might flicker or disappear? o.o
Er...
#8721 posted by Preach on 2009/06/28 00:28:30
Also players may find it hard to walk through the opened door with skip brushes there.
Also....
#8722 posted by metlslime on 2009/06/29 01:32:26
in software renderer, a func_door surface that is coplanar with a structural skip surface will not be drawn. So make your shadowcaster thinner than the func_* object.
And what preach said, the skip will be collidable, so hopefully you have a plan for dealing with that :)
And...
#8723 posted by metlslime on 2009/06/29 01:33:32
your door won't disappear as long as part of the bounding box is inside a visible leaf.
Oh So
#8724 posted by necros on 2009/06/29 02:59:17
it is the bounding box that determines visibility then.
i guess i should have realized that. :P
thanks for clearing that up, and yes, it wouldn't be used for an actual door, but things like extending bridges (that aren't accessible anyway) or towers that move as well as rotaters.
Yet More Questions..
#8725 posted by necros on 2009/06/29 03:27:41
aguire's light.exe.
does it support coloured lighting normally?
i see that it supports -tyrlite95 which is supposed to do coloured lighting, but i can't seem to figure out how to actually get it to generate a .lit file.
also, is the spawn key '_color' or 'color'?
Necros
#8726 posted by JPL on 2009/06/29 08:05:03
aguirRe's light tool does not support colored lights by default AFAIK. You would need to add the "-tyrlite95" in order to enable it, but I never tested this feature. I also guess you need to add a "-lit" option in your command line in order to enable .lit file generation, but I'm not sure. Also, the spawn key is "_color"...
Experimentation is the better school there ;)
Well
#8727 posted by necros on 2009/06/29 09:55:27
i messed with it yesterday, but it doesn't seem to actually work.
-tyrlite95 works, that alone doesn't generate a .lit.
according to the tyrlite docs, you're right, you need -lit before it generates anything. unfortunately, -lit is an invalid command line arg for aguirre's light. :S
so it looks like it's either use the real tyrlite and make do without sunlight stuff and delay 5 lights, or colours. :P
Necros
#8728 posted by JPL on 2009/06/29 10:24:14
Other solution is to ask aguirRe about his modified tyrlite light tool.... I'm using it actually... The only penalty is it does not support the second sunlight.. but is it really a problem ?
JPL
#8729 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/06/29 10:49:47
Modified Tyrlite light tool!?!?
I hit an "entities" limit (of 2048 I think) with the last map. Does the modified tool allow for more entities in the map (not light entities, but ALL entities)? I had to keep switching entities about just so I could light the map! lol . . . .
RickyT23
#8730 posted by JPL on 2009/06/29 10:57:24
I clearly don't know: ask aguirRe directly
Entity Limit
#8731 posted by negke on 2009/06/29 11:18:00
This sounds odd. Why would the compilers refuse to accept a map that exceeds a limit. Usually it's the engine.
I don't know if it helps in this case, but you could give the -hilimit option a try.
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