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This engine needs its own thread.

Feedback: I like the OS X version, but I have to start it from the terminal for it to work and can't just double-click it like a traditional OS X app. I'm sure you guys already know this, either way great engine.

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@mfx 
To test a theory can you please:

- take the win32 build http://quakespasm.sf.net/devel/quakespasm-0.85.10-r944_windows.zip

- and replace quakespasm.exe in it from this: http://quakespasm.sf.net/devel/test1.zip

... and see if it changes things? 
Moment Please 
 
Ok Szo 
all red over here. 
@mfx 
then I'm baffled.. (the test I gave you changed the gamma handling in gl_vidsdl.c to USE_GAMMA_RAMPS 1, hoping it were the culprit.)

Let's see if Eric, Steven or Sander comes up with an idea. 
RE: Win32build 
In the meantime, I'd like to hear others' experiences with win32 and win64 builds.

(FWIW, I re-tested both win32 and win64 builds on my win8.1/x64 laptop with on-board intel graphics and nvidia graphics, both still run ok with both intel and nvidia chosen as the 3d accelerator.) 
Hmm Weird 
couple ideas for mfx:

- just for a sanity check, could you try extracting the zip into an empty directory, and just add id1/pak0,1.pak, to rule out any issues with DLL interference
- try launching with "-notexturenpot"
- does the win64 one szo posted also give a red screen? http://quakespasm.sf.net/devel/quakespasm-0.85.10-r944_win64.zip 
Eric 
tried suggested clean folder setup, won�t work:( stdout.txt says this:

Warning: multitexture not supported (extension not found)
Warning: texture_env_combine not supported
Warning: texture_env_add not supported
Warning: vertical sync not supported (SDL_GL_GetAttribute failed)
Warning: texture_filter_anisotropic not supported
Warning: texture_non_power_of_two not supported 
-notexturenpot 
Won�t change the red output.. 
Also 
Running on 32-bit win7. 64bit build won�t start. 
Thx For Trying. One More 
Try launching with "-bpp 16", this will disable requesting a 24-bit depth buffer which was changed recently.

So in the clean folder setup you still get the red screen, or does it fail to start at all? The messages in stdout.txt suggest it's using software OpenGL :-/

Looks like that build I sent you for trying to fix the console key was from april 30. not much has changed since then besides the depth buffer thing, and the non-power-of-two support. 
Nope 
still red, 16 bit request too. 
Ok 
Here's another one to try: http://quakespasm.ericwa.com/job/quakespasm/23/artifact/quakespasm-r944.zip

this is r944 with a different SDL.dll, the one from "SDL-devel-1.2.15-mingw32.tar.gz"

Just to confirm, this is the one I sent in april, it still works?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hkha9wl897wg7oq/quakespasm-germanlayoutfix.zip 
Mfx 
tried suggested clean folder setup, won�t work:( stdout.txt says this:

Warning: multitexture not supported (extension not found)
Warning: texture_env_combine not supported
Warning: texture_env_add not supported
Warning: vertical sync not supported (SDL_GL_GetAttribute failed)
Warning: texture_filter_anisotropic not supported
Warning: texture_non_power_of_two not supported


Are you sure that you have hardware accelerated opengl??? 
Eric 
layoutfix works, still, r944 doesn�t.

szo: Are you sure that you have hardware accelerated opengl???

How can i check this? 
Mfx 
This is starting to sound like a joke...


layoutfix works, still, r944 doesn�t.

That 'layout fix' build seems to be from r913. Thas hasn't been any commits since r913 that would affect video. Eric, can you see arything otherwise?


szo: Are you sure that you have hardware accelerated opengl???

How can i check this?


If you can run any opengl games properly, then you have hw accelerated ogl.

What hardware and what driver is this anyway? 
Ok I�m Feeling A Bit Awkward Too. 
This happens only on the Lenovo thinkpad, all other HW i use makes no problem.

Onboard Gfx: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family

Driver Version: 8.15.10.1872

DirectX10

Oh, btw, this laptop has also problems with Fitz, FMKV, and DirectQ.
Darkplaces, requiem, Qbism, tyrquake and QuakeSpasm do work. 
 
gl_clear 0? 
Mfx 
OK then. Try and run quakespasm (r944, mine or Eric's, doesn't matter, and doesn't matter it gives a red screen) using a command line like
"quakespasm +gl_info"
... then exit, and see the generated stdout.txt file. What does it say about GL_VENDOR, GL_RENDERER and GL_EXTENSIONS? 
SZo 
GL_VENDOR: Microsoft Corporation
GL_RENDERER: GDI Generic
GL_VERSION: 1.1.0
GL_EXTENSIONS:
GL_WIN_swap_hint
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_paletted_texture 
GDI Generic 
is the problem, right? 
Mfx 
GDI Generic is the problem, right?

Correct: there is no hw-accelerated opengl driver.

Is your driver from micro$haft (I think it is, they usually don't provide ogl, but only dx), or from intel? I suggest you download from intel, who should provide proper ogl drivers. 
 
OpenGL version 2.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.1872 is supported, but its software emulated or..? I don�t get tbh.

Ok then, i�m checking out intels ogl drivers then. 
Yeah! 
Looks like its solved, though i had intel drivers already. Updated them and no red screen anymore.
Thanks for your patience szo and eric! 
 
Next time test everything on the same system, you dummerle. 
Sch�tzchen 
no. 
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