Agreed.
#67 posted by Shambler on 2014/02/27 10:43:40
What Metl said. It was a logical puzzle. I think adding a little Quad texture instead of the button would have been perfect.
But Of Course.
#68 posted by Shambler on 2014/02/27 11:17:01
Well done for taking on board the feedback and all the other fixes. Hopefully more people will try the map now and enjoy it more.
Gnah
#69 posted by Spirit on 2014/02/27 11:36:58
Should I rename the old version or the new version for Quaddicted?
Just 'finished'
#70 posted by dB_Audio on 2014/02/27 11:37:28
i didn't record a demo since i watched Shambler's first demos.
had i played without watching those, i think i would've given up early on. i'm a poor rocket jumper in the first place. however, the abundant amount of health/armor regeneration kept me very much alive. i also doubt that i would've figured out the QRJ.
as for the darkness, i didn't have any problems, but i play in the dark on my 47" LED tv with 2 million (or so) contrast ratio. i'm sure that helps.
i didn't beat the boss because of my RJ 'skills.' it was on the platform, & i Rj'ed into the ceiling below the crusher button and died.
Spirit
#71 posted by digs on 2014/02/27 12:21:56
Replace the old version to the new
#72 posted by Spirit on 2014/02/27 13:30:19
I did that but realised that I should not. If people downloaded it with the Quake Injector they have to manually delete the file from the download cache or they cannot get the new version. I only realised that now, I will not change zips again anymore (unless someone adds some fancy checksum checking to the Injector).
I reverted to the old version for now.
digs07_v2, digs07v2, digs07b, digs07_fixed?
PS: Next time please add a note about what changed in the readme ;)
Spirit
#73 posted by digs on 2014/02/27 13:34:41
the name of any
ps: ok
Updated Version
#74 posted by DaZ on 2014/03/01 01:53:25
w00t I managed to get to the final boss :D Unfortunately I got crushed by the crusher as it was going back into the ceiling (I was running along the small lip that sticks out just before the crusher part of it).
Seems like it could be a cool fight but I couldn't work out how to get the vore to go into the center. It would teleport around all the time (#tf let me know what causes the teleporting. I had no idea!). The button mechanic seems nice but in practice I bet it could be pretty fiddly. Will have to replay to see.
The lighting is better in the new version but i'd say it is too bright now in some areas and they can look very wasted out as a result. I had no problems seeing where to go (addition of a few helpful arrows was a plus) which was a huge improvement over the original imo.
I like the replacement of the 3 buttons with runes. it feels like more of an accomplishment to collect a rune than press a button! Feels weird not to have 4 runes though :D
Something I felt while playing is that the level could really have been made easier to understand while being potentially more complex with the addition of stronger visual themes to denote each type of jumping mechanic requirement.
For example. You could have used strong red themes (lighting, textures) to show where a pent rocket jump is needed while a blue theme could show where quadded rj's are required. With a suitable intro to each colour theme this could have worked really well to give players an idea of what is required in certain areas without heavy handed text prompts giving the game away completely (example : quad rj text)
I did enjoy the level a lot however. Made me use my brain to figure things out :)
I loved some of the detailing on the walls and ceilings. Some of the boxy lcd panels with wiring and machinery around them looked fantastic.
I will be doing a video of this release when my pc decides to play nice! :P
DaZ
#75 posted by digs on 2014/03/01 03:18:37
Digs:
#76 posted by Shambler on 2014/03/02 13:15:41
One more thing.... Obviously you have had a fair bit of criticism for this map, and I think it has been a difficult one for players to get to grips with. But I also think there is a general appreciation of what you've tried to do and how you've pushed the boundaries in a generally high quality way.
In fact after playing this I went back and replayed Digs03-06, and they are all interesting and fun and often with an intriguing challenge that can be frustrating but is always worthwhile. I really appreciate you doing different and "tricky" things, so please keep doing it and please keep coming up with these maps - don't be put off by the criticism but try to use it to make maps that are creative but more manageable for players :)
Shambler
#77 posted by digs on 2014/03/02 13:19:41
Thanks! :)
Get To Da Vidya!
#78 posted by DaZ on 2014/03/03 19:43:15
The Best F** Map In The Whole Universe!!!!
#79 posted by vegetous on 2014/03/08 04:41:44
This is the best Quake map ever! I played it 4 or 5 times 2 days ago. Today I finished it in the first run, but it took more than a hour of unstoppable play time. Amazing map! Thanks! PS.: U must try it it with the last SMC from Seven!!!
Finally Played This
#80 posted by nitin on 2014/03/10 13:21:59
was a little confusing but nothing a little bit of wandering around didnt alleviate.
More importantly, I found the combats a bit dull and same with a lot of the build quality. Maybe it was the flattish lighting but for every good looking area, there was a few bland looking ones.
Boss fight was pretty nifty though.
Oh
#81 posted by nitin on 2014/03/10 13:23:55
and I had to do a lot of reloading in the pent
RJ area, ran out of health the first run through because I wasted pent in zombie room. Even later, I thought there was too many RJs and a few health packs wouldnt have hurt for those that couldnt make the pent last.
From The Screens..
#82 posted by mackenzie on 2014/03/14 20:30:49
..definitely not my favourite style, but then again I'll take a look :)
Deep Scars Run
#83 posted by vegetous on 2014/03/22 02:54:34
Sorry Wrong Video
#84 posted by vegetous on 2014/03/22 02:58:42
I've posted a wrong video in comment #83. sorry for my mistake! I'll try to upload and post a new video later on!
No Shit...
#85 posted by Shambler on 2014/03/22 23:35:39
...that's the wrong video. The new skins and effects and gimmicks look fucking ridiculous in Quake.
I Like This
#86 posted by Baker on 2014/06/21 03:55:55
I like this. I'm stuck though, so I'll be watching Shambler's demo just enough to see what I'm not noticing.
(Got stuck in the area with the pent and the red button you shoot to causes a platform to come out).
Nice to see a map that rocket jumping is "ok" --- sometimes rocket jumping risks breaking a map.
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