Great Stuff
#8537 posted by Tronyn on 2012/06/19 01:10:42
nice dark atmosphere and unique take on the Knave design style.
2012 is shaping up to be a really good year for Q1SP
Wow
#8538 posted by RickyT33 on 2012/06/19 01:21:38
Looks amazing!
Looks Ace!
#8539 posted by DaZ on 2012/06/19 11:06:01
Shots were a bit dark though, probably just a gamma issue.
Jesus Christ
#8540 posted by nitin on 2012/06/19 12:36:09
more amazing shots! How long is this one off?
Scale in map 1 looks slightly too large though from those screenshots.
Neat Stuff Indeed!
#8541 posted by quakis on 2012/06/19 13:19:57
Are you the same Skacky who released Shadow Politics for Thief?
Wow!
#8542 posted by Hrimfaxi on 2012/06/19 13:20:01
That looks fantastic skacky!
Looking forward to play it.
#8543 posted by skacky on 2012/06/19 13:25:25
Quakis: Yeah I'm the same person. I'm still working on my other Thief map at the same time but I paused its development for now.
The pics are a bit dark indeed, my screenshots seem to disregard my gamma settings for some reason with FitzQuake. The level is quite brighter in game but still pretty gloomy.
Thanks for your comments guys, very appreciated.
#8544 posted by anonymous user on 2012/06/19 18:18:14
Really nice work skacky, enjoyed all the pics!
All these screenshoots made me map much more then usually
Fucking Awesome
#8545 posted by Drew on 2012/06/20 02:19:20
Love knave. Big scale is just fine. Dark shots but prolly fine in game. Not a fan of the trim as it is in lava shot. Half submerged skull. Opinion. Last one - vein this look too regular/ inorganic / pipey maybe?
#8546 posted by [Kona] on 2012/06/20 13:05:05
looks awesome skacky
Double Neat!
#8547 posted by quakis on 2012/06/20 20:44:02
Shadow Politics was a good ride, so I'm definitely looking forward to both the new Thief and Quake projects.
Bookcase Review
#8548 posted by sock on 2012/06/21 03:08:51
skacky: Nice to see you here at func, hope you enjoy the stay, a different crowd to mapcore, much more game play focused..
It is hard to go wrong with the Kell texture set (beautiful artwork) but the greatest strength is also its greatest weakness, books books and more books! The spiral bookcases always look amazing (screenshot 4) and towering bookcases in some of the screenshots look epic.
I like screenshot 2 best because it has nice variety of floor heights and it feels like the fight with the ogre/fiend could be interesting. I like the additions of the flesh and mouth in the last screenshot and it is certainly a better direction than every wall being books.
The lighting seems to lack any kind of hotness and is either very dark near the sky (screenshot 5) or the central areas (screenshot 3) have a high ambient light making the center of the room look flat.
More Underground
#8549 posted by sock on 2012/06/21 03:14:21
http://www.simonoc.com/images/design/sp/its3.jpg
(large image 1.86Mb)
doodling on my start map, any feedback on lighting? things you don't like? nitpicks? all are welcome ...
No Nitpicks Here
#8550 posted by Tronyn on 2012/06/21 05:27:02
The lighting looks like a big improvement - much more sourced, gloomy, etc. The ceilings, especially in the last shot, look good. Style looks like a very tight expansion on classic Quake theme with no distance at all between concept, textures and architecture. My only request is for there to be one outdoor area in that theme, even if it's a secret area or only at the end.
Iron Bars?
#8551 posted by Drew on 2012/06/21 06:36:56
Not sure I am sold on those which house that fiend. Prefer the thinner bars found in honey etc perhaps. I think other than that my thoughts are identical to those offered by tronyn.
Actually
#8552 posted by Drew on 2012/06/21 06:39:51
I rescind my former statement about the fiend cage thing.
#8553 posted by [Kona] on 2012/06/21 07:27:54
looks sexy as fuck, sock. i don't mind the thick bars.
Holy Cow Sock!
#8554 posted by skacky on 2012/06/21 10:12:13
That looks awesome! I like the Fiend cage and I don't mind the thick bars as well. The architecture looks mighty complicated, especially in the first and third pictures.
About the Knave texture set, I agree bookcases are its greatest strength and weakness, and I got a bit overzealous with them at times since I tend to dislike 64*64 tiling textures. :P
I'm trying to break that, though.
As for the lighting it's still very basic for the moment, I haven't used a single light spot for the moment and man do I love these. I'm trying to pinpoint the style as much as I can before working on the lighting properly. I'm also using a 35 minlight but I'm thinking of lowering it to, say, 20 or 18 to have deeper shadows.
Thanks for your feedback everyone!
Yeah, Great Screenshots Everyone
#8555 posted by negke on 2012/06/21 11:25:18
Sock: those black triangles can be a real pain in the ass. Sometimes they go away as the map grows. Other times you have to use a sledgehammer: force QBSP to split the face differently. Try if making the conflicting brush not intersect with the adjacent geometry works. If not, you need to ,anually split the face/brush in half (but not in the same way as QBSP does - check with r_showtris) and use a slightly different texture offset or scale (something invisible to the eye, like 1.0001). This often seems to fix it.
Black Triangles?
That's space beneath the elevator.
Annually Splitting The Brush In Half
#8557 posted by rj on 2012/06/21 18:54:36
this tends to be my approach to mapping. doesn't bode well for prolificity
#8558 posted by necros on 2012/06/21 19:13:34
I'm also using a 35 minlight but I'm thinking of lowering it to, say, 20 or 18 to have deeper shadows.
If at all possible, try not to use minlight at all or use local minlight if you must have it in some areas. :)
I just finished playing through Fear Perseus Mandate... some great gameplay but the amount of horrible flat ambient light is shocking. Really is something to avoid :E
#8560 posted by erc on 2012/06/22 09:58:25
I wrote a review for that a long time ago. Sure, the maps were lacking in flair but I enjoyed it more than the the first EP.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/fear-perseus-mandate/reviews/reviewerId,39185/
Perseus Mandate
#8561 posted by Blitz on 2012/06/23 02:37:05
It's cool to hear people like Perseus Mandate, I did a couple of levels for it. FEAR is such a great toolbox for making compelling gunfights.
So much of the art in that game was designer art which is why it looks less than stellar compared to other games from that era.
Your review is really accurate erc :)
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