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Monsters In Func_train 
the vore in hip3m1? 
Tip 
I have one quick tip. Make sure that when you place your func_train brushes in the editor, it is positioned so that the lowermost extent exactly on the first path_corner. To find the lowermost extent, consider the smallest bounding box which will surround the entire model. Then take the coordinates of the corner of the box where x, y and z are all smallest. This will make sure the train doesn't get moved when it spawns, which might be getting the vores stuck. 
And I'm Assuming 
That all other path corners should be placed with the same logic? 
Just Tried It 
but as long as the distance between func_train and vormit holds 24 units it rides fine.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/trainvore.zip

Good idea! 
Vores On A Train 
Yea it does work, just make sure the train is
triggered a little after the vores are spawned
onto the train. So, use a trigger_once for the
train. 
Lardarse 
Yeah, the path_corners always indicate the minimum point on the bounding box. The spawn function for a train always "teleports" the func_train to the first path_corner. So you need to place the vores in such a way to anticipate when the train will be once it's been teleported in this way. The easiest way to do that is to already place the brushes in the right place in-editor. 
And 
That can help you light the thing better, to stop dark patches etc.

So you can place it wherever you like, where it'll be lit properly, but the paths in the correct place.

That's assuming it doesn't need to carry vores though. 
Does 
Anyone have a method for finding a missing enemy?

I've got one left over and can't find him - there's spawning going on so most likely I'm not calling one that is spawned.

I tried reading the .sav but it lists everything - there doesn't seem to be a way to search the correct term. 
 
Could be a zombie that is knocked down below water and can't get up. I've seen that before. 
No Zombies 
That reminds me to put a fix in for stuck zombies though. 
 
What fix would that be? I had a huge problem with stuck zombies in the warehouse section of White Room. 
Func_breakable And Rubble Texture 
I'm using the func_breakable from qouth. If I set the rubble texture to glass the rubble isn't textured in-game. What could be the cause of this? 
Ijed 
you should check the save file, look for health value, every dead monster has negative health value[something like this]
"classname" "monster_army"
"model" "progs/soldier.mdl"
....
....
....
"health" "-10.000000"

alive monster will have positive h/val. 
Well 
What I have in mind is adding to an unused field for each time the zombie tries and fails to get up, like ammo_shells.

If ammo shells reaches 3 then the zombie gibs itself. If it gets up then it resets ammo_shells to 0. 
 
Oh, a code solution, OK. I thought there was some map trick you were doing. :) 
The Answer 
Email it to AguirRe and ask him ;P 
 
Well, there's a gameplay solution - when the zombie moans (trying to get up) you can kill it then with an explosion.

And yeah, I should have just mailed AguirRe in the first place. 
About That Func_train Thing ... 
It's with the going up and down that the trouble starts. When the train goes up again the entities fall true. MadFox, your example map runs perfect, thanks, only my idea was to make it run in a (seemingly) random manner, so the player will have to look where to shoot. So I made all my path_corners look like a vertical line in the XY view and sort of W shaped in the YZ view. Maybe I'll use your idea and make it move in a straight horizontal line than, I don't know. Anyway, thanks for all your help, people. I think another month or so and I'm finally ready to send this map to the world. 
Ron 
I made another setup with the example.
I think you could make the cage thing with the clip brush. Then bullets fly through, but the Vore will be centered to the func_train.
It rides every angle you want.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/mvore0.zip 
Fantastic ! 
MadFox, you did it !
This is really great, Thanks a lot ! 
 
Madfox the skull you made in arcus is fucking working real nice... the model is very perfect... i like it a lot!

visualy and in gameplay.

You are improving a lottttttttt in .mdls :)

keep the good work! 
Yeah 
just don't forget to retexture the head mdl, when gibbed its still greenish
http://www.celephais.net/board/icons/icon4.gif 
Ha! 
Ron, map on!

Trinca, when making the hangar with the zdoom models you warned me not to change Quake. RLOF.
But indeed, I start loving modeling more than mapping, except the texturing.

I'm an average player, and the Enforcer has got a real bite on me. I mean, quake is fantasy so where are the other magic players like scrag, hellknight and vormit and ogre?
Killing a soldier or Enforcer still feels wrong.

Spy - it was on the last moment I found out how to change the skin of Bones. Before that I spend evenings pointing pixel by pixel.
I had the alpha skin from Q3 in stead of the original.
Louis told me that the idle and attack sounds
are switched. I'll see for that. 
Madfox 
Are you following the tickets in RQ for NPC's? 
Some 
They come in that amount I mostly check the last ones. I'm still not familiar with the remake quake. I played some maps, and I'm working on the watermon.map

I'm trying to create a frogman, an amphibian, but combining the start_monster_walk and start_monster_swim is a hard bone. 
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