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Necros 
Thanks, this is probably the route i'm going to take due to ease of use and: tbh after looking at H2 source, the method there is a bit too out of wack for what I need..

After playing NSOE, I see that's pretty much the way I'd like it to work, so if the end result is the same / similar then all will be well.

I'll fidget w/ it. 
Color Light 
What do people use to achieve this? I've been googling and can't really find anything that tells you how to do it.

I read the .txt file for fitzquake and it said it supports colored lighting with .lit files. But google turned up nothing for .lit files. 
KamiKaze 
.lit file is generated during map lightning process. Depending on your light tool, it is supported, or not. Generally you just have to add a -colored and/or a -lit option to your command line.
You also need to add a _color field per light entity. _colored are using r g b fields in [0:1] range (i.e equivalent to 0 to 255). 
Colored Light 
Tyrlight supports colored light, exactly in the method JPL described. The readme should give more info.

http://www.disenchant.net/utils.html 
Question 
guys, what's the best/average _sunlight, _sunlight2/3 value? l tried with 220/100 value but its look like minlight has been used. or there is no best value :) 
Interesting Query 
What angle have you set for each of your "suns"?

should be "0-360" "0 to -90" "0"(the last number is there just as a marker)

If you dont set a good angle I'm not sure what the behaviour is, but regardless of the brightness you should have your suns all at different angles to see the effect well. I cant remember what the key is exactly - "_sunlight_mangle"? It should say in the docs on AguirRe's website:

http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k/readmevis.txt 
As For The Brightness Of The Suns 
100 - 220 should look fine. The sunlight has no falloff so any value over about 15 should be obvious..... But if the angle is -90 then it may look like minlight in outside areas because it will be pointing 90 degrees downwards 
Something Like 
_sun_mangle 230 -45 0
_sunlight 250
_sunlight3 140 
OK, Quoted From Mthe Readme: 
The 2nd sunlight is enabled via command line option "-sunlight2 #" or via "_sunlight2" key in
worldspawn. This 2nd sun is actually many suns automatically positioned in an arrangement with
different yaw/pitch to eliminate bad shadows. When option "-extra" or "-extra4" is enabled, more
suns are used.

This 2nd sunlight value can be used to soften the shadows in outdoor areas from the normal
sunlight without using minlight, which in turn then may be reserved for indoor areas. A value of
60 is a good starting point for the 2nd sunlight if the normal sunlight is 250.

You can also add the "-shadowsense #" option which sets the angle (shadow) sensitivity for 2nd
sunlight (default 0.0). This can reduce the sometimes uniform look of sunlight. Recommended value
is 0.4 together with an increased 2nd sunlight level of about 10. For convenience, you can also
use option "-sunlight3 #" or "_sunlight3" key which just enables 2nd sunlight and at the same time
sets shadow sensitivity to 0.4.


Interesting it doesnt say how to set the angle of the second sun, but I would try reducing your "_sunlight3" (or 2) value to something much lower like 40 or 50.....

Maybe. Or email AguirRe :) he's very helpful 
 
shit sorry about the bad formatting... 
Afaik 
there is no (m)angle for sunlite2/3
but anyway thank you for the hell[p] 
Is It Possible 
To give a different colour to each sunlight? 
AFAIK 
AguirR�s tools don�t support colour. 
UVW Twisting 
What causes this?

I have the thing fine in Qme and can reopen where still it looks correct, but in game it looks like the texture is twisted round the object in a spiral. 
Also 
Qme can�t open DXF files from the most recent version of 3dMax? 
Well 
DXF is shittier than 3ds whose backwards compatibility format means it doesn't matter which version you export from.

Might try experimenting with uvw's there, but don't hold much hope - AFAIK the model will be reskinned automatically.

Twisting could be down to using different versions of Qme.

What I'm trying to do is unfold the model so its flat and correctly mapped, then have its first animation frame group as put back together, the second being the mapped version. 
Half Life - Missing PAK 
I think I've mentioned on here before that I'm thinking of doing some HL mapping. Wondering if anyone has any experience with mapping for steam (NON SOURCE) Half Life. Seems like theres no pak0.pak in the valve folder. Any ideas as to where it is, or what it has been replaced with? I'm frankly surprised at how backwards incompatible Valve has made their breakout product considering the user community was a main ingredient in its huge success. 
I Think 
if you've 'converted' a normal HL installation for steam, pak files are removed and placed in those GCF files in the steam/steamapps folder, but i could be wrong. 
Necros 
thanks for the quick reply!

does anyone know if there is a program I can use to browse GCF files? 
Nevermind 
Found one... 
Drew 
Yeah just extracting the .gcf's content to your gamemod's folder structure usually does the trick enough to get usable media ie: wads etc. That's how I got Radiant 1.4.0 Raven working w/ HL / DMC.

Also, looks like you found GCFScape ;) 
Im Looking For Some Help: 
I know I can set an info_notnull to be a single frame of animation from a model. I.e. a statue.
Im looking for the frame number of a dead shambler, when they lie on the ground with their arms out.

And also I want to make it "lie" on the wall, so I guess I would need to use the angles key, but what value?

If anyone can answer these questions it would be very helpfull and save me a lot of messing about! 
So You Want 
To crucify a shambler?

Frame: 104 for RQ 94 for id1

For angles you'll have to mess about, roll or yaw will depend on which way the wall is facing - NSEW.

Put it in a box, compile with player start and check. 
;-) 
thnx Ijed! 
Point Of Fact 
104 does something else instead. 
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