My bro has a medium-ish sized widescreen TV but no surround sound unfortunately.

It is a shame its 360 only at the moment, I hope they do bring out a pc version because this game kicks so much arse. 

Noted and saved. Demo is probably 1.08 as the attacks are not too bad. 

played GoW coop at work for the first time and I must say it's fucking awesome. Only played for 2 hours so haven't got as far as Daz, but I totally agree with what he said about it.

It's not perfect, but it's still fucking good fun and likely the best game you are likely to play this Christmas. 

- one of those likelys 

iiiiiiiiiiiii

anybody else have one of these yet? I think it's pretty fucking awesome myself. So shut up than.

Wii Sports seemed like it might just be a simple throwaway title for the sake of having one in the box, but it's kind of addicting. It's still simple, but a title deserving of shelf space. I got a hold of a Wii before Thanksgiving and brought it home over the holiday, and my dad kept challenging me to games of golf. The different sports all come with a variety of training gametypes, too - a tennis mode that trains you to time your swings to hit specific moving targets, a golf mode that has you hitting balls onto a big bullseye with a 9-iron for score, and a bowling mode for practicing power throws that pits you against larger and larger arrays of pins (up to almost 100 pins at a time).

But, here's the utter seal of amazement: my mom wanted to try it. That's something. She was still deathly uncoordinated, but it's a step forward. 

We have one at work and it's pretty popular...like people are coming in early and leaving late to play the Wii. So far I've played Bowling and Tennis and they were pretty cool. I watched other people play Red Steel (mehhh looks not so great and apparently controls not so great) and Twilight Princess (pretty cool, about what you'd expect from a "new" Zelda game)

I can't help but shake the nagging feeling that the core concept of motion controlled gaming is something that could have been done years ago but probably wouldn't have caught on because games were still improving graphically. This is the perfect time for the Wii because we have all these slight improvements being touted as next gen, and I think even "hardcore" gamers realize it's bullshit and just want to actually enjoy themselves.

The Wii, although gimmicky, is still a very cool concept and I think we could see some really crazy/innovative ideas pop up...hopefully :) 

...and it was ugly, unrewarding and unbelievably tedious. I don't think I've ever been so bored by something that claims to be entertainment.

I think Condemned tries to be something other than your average shooter, but it fails miserably imho. The slow player speed, sparse combat, heavy darkness, limited ammunition, claustrophobic environments and prosaic level design all add up to a game with little to enjoy and nothing to do but trudge through the cliche story and predictable set peices.

High points include believable environments, a strong atmosphere of tenstion, all around quality assets, and an interesting melee combat system. Unfortunately the visuals are let down by harsh minimal lighting and the combat is simply not that good.

It's difficult to recommend so much as spending the time to play the demo, let alone purchasing the game. Avoid 

they play xbox in japan? (ok it's a game company but anyway!) 

I think there were like 8 xboxes sold in october...
totalling to ~120 since the beginning of the year. source - NPD

xbox360 numbers are much bigger but still way ps2 

way below ps2 

So, my question goes to the XBOX360 owners here who DO NOT have an HDTV: Is the XBOX360 noticably superior to othe original XBOX in visual quality assuming you are using a regular widescreen TV (and not HDTV) ? 

I've never seen an 360 on hdtv but in terms of graphics quality you just need to look at gears of war in action and its easy to tell that its way ahead of the xbox 

It's hard for me to judge the 360 on a NON-HDTV TV and I've _ONLY_ seen it demoed on HDTV's in stores and thefore dont have the slightest idea about what kind of quality I should expect if I was to get the 360 since I don't have an HDTV myself. 

are just the console rendering in higher resolution. That's the only difference - no bells and whistles are enabled in 720 or 1080 that aren't in 480, the same assets are used across all settings ... it's just the same picture on a different size TV.

Universally.

Oh wait I guess I pissed off Shambler by mentioning a non-PC game so he had to change the thread title. I'd better not post this then! 

I think the best solution is to get a widescreen PC monitor, smth like those 21" Samsungs (215TW) or bigger. With all kinds of TV-ins.
You get a very good PC monitor, and also can plug a console into it and enjoy high resolution. I recon you would get a picture superior to almost any TV.

x360 games are QA-ed for 720p
hence u have unreadable text in Rise of the Dead (as the most famous problem with lowrez displays)

gah, we`v been thru it few times at TF 

In the recent news Lost Planet (another x360 game from capcom http://games.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1369/Lost-Planet) also has tiny font unreadable on lowres TV, but capcom promised to fix the issue 

So I thought about selling my GC so I could have a little money to put towards buying a Wii, but then I realized there would be almost no buyers because the Wii can do exactly what the GC does, and more. :|

Oh well. I'll probably wait until a better selection of games comes out, and I see a bundle that I really like.

And I have to agree, it doesn't look like the Wii has a whole lot of really strong release titles. Mario Galaxies might be cool, although from the previews I've seen, mostly the game doesn't take place in the traditional Mario land fantasy world, which for me was one of the draws of the other games. 

since I never use it and if I get a wii it won't have any function at all.. but yeah the problem is that most likely won't be anyone at all that wants to buy one and on top of that it might be nice to keep the gc-controller but then selling the console without a controller will be even more hopeless *sigh*

My fear is that it will become a piece of completely use and worthless electronics unless some one comes up with some good use of any of the components in it :/ 

Boring, pointless. 

what GC games do u have? 

Alien Hominid, Killer 7, Zelda Collection, MK, MP, NFS:HP2, POP:SOT, POP:TT, POP:WW, RE1, RE2, Sonic Collection, Smuggler's Run, Viewtiful Joe.

...I just realized that I haven't beat half of those. 

I have games that are still in the shrink-wrap. Like resident evil 4, and max payne 2 (the latter for the PC, obviously.) 

My computer is full of fantasy games and RPG games...

Have got:

Gothic 3
Guild Wars Nightfall
Thief 3
Vampire: Assquerade

And am going to buy:

Dark Messiah
Warhammer Mark Of Chaos

Funny, I spend ages wanting some good, proper, fantasy games, and then dozens of them come along at once... 

Yeah, I seem to also be playing mostly Fantasy games these days, seem to be releasing more of them (maybe cause of the success of LotR or something?)
Played Oblivion, Dark Messiah, Thief 3, and Final Fantasy 3 (but that's a console game, so I'll say no more, or Shambler might devour me).

You seemed so pumped up about Dark Messiah Shamb, yet you haven't gotten around to playing it? Was wondering how you'd find it... 

Dark Messiah, yeah very cool, but then this thing called Gothic3 came along....o_O

Might end up finding the full G3 so buggy compared to the demo that I give up and play DM instead O_o