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Use Nemesis's terrain generator... and import the resulting
QuArK's terrain thing is very very VERY bad.
Nemesis' tool is much better: http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?p=8 Tutorials: http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?p=12 MadFox
Try to keep the bounding boxes of the terrain triangle polys to 16 unit boundaries. The lightmaps, I believe, are at a 16:1 resolution so if you deviate from that you could end up with weird black splotches. BSP and Light are the quick tools where VIS can take a "while" to complete. I am kinda interested how the VIS speed differs on different machines, so I prepared some stuff:
http://www.quaddicted.com/stuff/bench_koohoo.bsp http://www.quaddicted.com/stuff/bench_koohoo.prt Put these two into the same directory and run vis bench_koohoo. Then post the time it took here, including your machine's specs (CPU and RAM would be the interesting bits I guess). If you are not using aguirRe's latest Vis ( http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k/ ) please also mention that (and make sure to use level 4). It should take about 20-30 minutes, probably much less. Try not to do anything else during that time on your PC. Just browsing around on the internet added 10% to my vis time. Thanks to Vondur for his steamy swampy map. My results: Pentium-M 1.2GHz, 2GB Ram (400MHz I think), Debian Lenny. Through Wine: 18:32 gb's port: 18:02 Pentium III-M(?) 1GHz, 256MB Ram, Windows XP Vis: 25:49 Don't forget to use the original vis tool does with this....
Ill post some results in a while... OK - heres my effort - XP32 C2D 6750 @ 2.66 GHz (2 cores in processor, but I guess it only used one...?)
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Rick>cd c:\quake\id1\maps C:\Quake\Id1\maps>vis bench_koohoo ---- Vis 2.31 ---- Modified by Bengt Jardrup File: bench_koohoo.bsp 3381 portalleafs 9565 numportals testlevel = 4 Base: 0.0%, Elapsed: 0:00 Base: 100.0%, Elapsed: 0:05 Full: 0.0%, Elapsed: 0:00 Full: 30.4%, Elapsed: 0:10 Full: 35.7%, Elapsed: 0:20, Left: 2:04, Total: 2:24, 13% Full: 38.1%, Elapsed: 0:30, Left: 2:41, Total: 3:11, 15% Full: 41.4%, Elapsed: 0:40, Left: 3:23, Total: 4:03, 16% Full: 43.5%, Elapsed: 0:50, Left: 3:36, Total: 4:26, 18% Full: 45.2%, Elapsed: 1:00, Left: 3:54, Total: 4:54, 20% Full: 47.0%, Elapsed: 1:10, Left: 4:48, Total: 5:58, 19% Full: 48.7%, Elapsed: 1:20, Left: 4:59, Total: 6:19, 21% Full: 50.8%, Elapsed: 1:30, Left: 4:21, Total: 5:51, 25% Full: 52.9%, Elapsed: 1:40, Left: 3:56, Total: 5:36, 29% Full: 53.9%, Elapsed: 1:51, Left: 4:39, Total: 6:30, 28% Full: 55.1%, Elapsed: 2:01, Left: 5:28, Total: 7:29, 27% Full: 56.5%, Elapsed: 2:11, Left: 6:21, Total: 8:32, 25% Full: 58.1%, Elapsed: 2:21, Left: 4:56, Total: 7:17, 32% Full: 59.1%, Elapsed: 2:32, Left: 5:22, Total: 7:54, 32% Full: 60.2%, Elapsed: 2:42, Left: 5:36, Total: 8:18, 32% Full: 61.2%, Elapsed: 2:56, Left: 7:15, Total: 10:11, 28% Full: 62.6%, Elapsed: 3:06, Left: 5:49, Total: 8:55, 34% Full: 63.8%, Elapsed: 3:16, Left: 5:30, Total: 8:46, 37% Full: 64.8%, Elapsed: 3:26, Left: 4:49, Total: 8:15, 41% Full: 66.4%, Elapsed: 3:36, Left: 4:24, Total: 8:00, 45% Full: 67.4%, Elapsed: 3:46, Left: 4:36, Total: 8:22, 44% Full: 68.4%, Elapsed: 3:57, Left: 4:37, Total: 8:34, 46% Full: 69.7%, Elapsed: 4:07, Left: 4:50, Total: 8:57, 45% Full: 71.2%, Elapsed: 4:17, Left: 3:55, Total: 8:12, 52% Full: 72.2%, Elapsed: 4:27, Left: 3:41, Total: 8:08, 54% Full: 73.7%, Elapsed: 4:37, Left: 3:17, Total: 7:54, 58% Full: 75.0%, Elapsed: 4:47, Left: 3:21, Total: 8:08, 58% Full: 76.5%, Elapsed: 4:57, Left: 2:43, Total: 7:40, 64% Full: 77.7%, Elapsed: 5:07, Left: 2:47, Total: 7:54, 64% Full: 79.3%, Elapsed: 5:18, Left: 2:23, Total: 7:41, 68% Full: 80.7%, Elapsed: 5:28, Left: 2:18, Total: 7:46, 70% Full: 83.0%, Elapsed: 5:38, Left: 1:37, Total: 7:15, 77% Full: 84.7%, Elapsed: 5:48, Left: 1:25, Total: 7:13, 80% Full: 86.0%, Elapsed: 5:58, Left: 1:18, Total: 7:16, 82% Full: 87.1%, Elapsed: 6:08, Left: 1:32, Total: 7:40, 79% Full: 89.3%, Elapsed: 6:18, Left: 1:09, Total: 7:27, 84% Full: 91.2%, Elapsed: 6:28, Left: 0:51, Total: 7:19, 88% Full: 93.1%, Elapsed: 6:38, Left: 0:34, Total: 7:12, 92% Full: 94.5%, Elapsed: 6:48, Left: 0:31, Total: 7:19, 92% Full: 95.6%, Elapsed: 6:58, Left: 0:29, Total: 7:27, 93% Full: 96.9%, Elapsed: 7:08, Left: 0:25, Total: 7:33, 94% Full: 97.9%, Elapsed: 7:18, Left: 0:18, Total: 7:36, 96% Full: 99.5%, Elapsed: 7:28, Left: 0:03, Total: 7:31, 99% Full: 100.0%, Elapsed: 7:31, Left: 0:00, Total: 7:31, 100% average leafs visible: 163 max leafs visible: 424 near (2496 1024 128) c_chains: 41037083 visdatasize: 146 kb compressed from 1396 kb Elapsed time : 7:38 C:\Quake\Id1\maps> Since this game is fun to play and looks like it will be a lot of fun to map for, I was thinking of getting started sometime soon. Does anyone have any info about how to map for it? Since it just came out there doesn't seem to be a lot of info right now. Has anyone got the SDK to work with L4D assets yet? Anyone else thinking of making a map?
Spirit
Xp SP2 P4 2.8 512 RAM ---- Vis 2.30 ---- Modified by Bengt Jardrup File: bench_koohoo.bsp 3381 portalleafs 9565 numportals testlevel = 4 average leafs visible: 163 max leafs visible: 424 near (2496 1024 128) c_chains: 41037083 visdatasize: 146 kb compressed from 1396 kb Elapsed time : 14:02 State time : 0:01 I was so annoyed by searching "that file" so often that I just created http://www.quaddicted.com/tools/
Suggestions and links to more tools are very welcome. (And now I just realised I should make the wads integrated like that too.) ---- Vis 2.30 ---- Modified by Bengt Jardrup
File: 3381 portalleafs 9565 numportals testlevel = 4 average leafs visible: 163 max leafs visible: 424 near (2496 1024 128) c_chains: 41037083 visdatasize: 146 kb compressed from 1396 kb Elapsed time : 11:07 State time : 0:01 P4 3.4 Ghz - WinXp - 1024 RAM ---- Vis 2.31 ---- Modified by Bengt Jardrup
File: bench_koohoo.bsp 3381 portalleafs 9565 numportals testlevel = 4 average leafs visible: 163 max leafs visible: 424 near (2496 1024 128) c_chains: 41037083 visdatasize: 146 kb compressed from 1396 kb Elapsed time : 13:29 State time : 0:01 Pentium 4 3.0 Ghz HT, 2.5 Gigs of RAM, Windows Vista Home Premium. Hey, I've pretty much never used trains. Or at least, very little, and not for a long time. I want to have a train start at a point, then, when triggered by a trigger_multiple, go on a path, and then return to its original point until triggered once more. How should I set that up? I'm sure it's simple enough but it doesn't seem to work as planned.
---- Vis 2.31 ---- Modified by Bengt Jardrup
File: bench_koohoo.bsp 3381 portalleafs 9565 numportals testlevel = 4 average leafs visible: 163 max leafs visible: 424 near (2496 1024 128) c_chains: 41037083 visdatasize: 146 kb compressed from 1396 kb Elapsed time : 14:57 State time : 0:01 P4 2.4, 768mb ram, xp sp2 Cheers!
Can't find or download GenSurf and WinPack. Do you have working links? GenSurf is hosted at stupid atomicgamer and the links are dead. I will send you the files through email: both do not need installers ;)
If I remeber well, WinPack allow to dive into Packs, but not to create them (not like PakExplorer...).. and GenSurf is weird to use.. I never used it for my maps, just for tests, and I personnaly prefer Nemesis' tool... Such a setup is not actually possible in standard quake, at least not allowing the sequence to be retriggered an indefinite number of times. You would have to use a custom mod like hipnotic or custents or quoth to do so.
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