Although
#7920 posted by
Kinn on 2005/06/08 01:41:56
Vondur would still rock my world, whatever his beliefs on fiend's ocular properties >:D
Who Cares...
#7921 posted by
JPL on 2005/06/08 02:07:17
.. if fiends have eyes or not ? Fiends are monsters, and we have to kill them all... that's all....
I'm Still Against It
#7922 posted by
pope on 2005/06/08 02:17:56
http://www.jesselawrence.com/images/fiendshaveeyes.jpg
all the 'monsters' in quake have no EYES. grunts, enforcers, dogs, knights, and fish do.
but all the supernatural 'demonic' creatures are souless and have no eyes!
ogres used to have eyes but now they are dry sockets.
While We're Discussing Q1 Monsters
#7923 posted by
pope on 2005/06/08 02:23:19
Von
#7925 posted by
Lunaran on 2005/06/08 02:24:18
let's mail to adrian! :D
One step ahead of you - email sent. Can't any of you be proactive?
Let's see if he even responds.
Speedy
#7927 posted by
pope on 2005/06/08 02:29:41
turned out to be
http://www.inside3d.com/q1mons/shalrath.jpg
btw, what does it say? 'no eyed' yeah... yes it did
Bleh...
#7928 posted by
distrans on 2005/06/08 02:52:55
...I am not unique; see post #7924
Yay
#7929 posted by
Vondur on 2005/06/08 03:29:59
kinn, i believe that fiends have eyes
lun, you rock my world, i hope he'll respond
and i'm chton! :)
http://www.inside3d.com/q1mons/chthon.jpg
no wonder i put one in my level...
Well, It's Natural That Shambler Doesn't Do A Lot Of Looking
#7930 posted by
BlackDog on 2005/06/08 03:30:11
Unlike fiends, Shamblers have no eyes.
PS Lun is awesome.
What Pope Said...
#7932 posted by
Shambler on 2005/06/08 05:15:17
all the 'monsters' in quake have no EYES. grunts, enforcers, dogs, knights, and fish do.
but all the supernatural 'demonic' creatures are souless and have no eyes!
W3RD.
I'm Quite Sure
#7933 posted by
. on 2005/06/08 05:33:45
The scrag has eyes. And Chton, from what I recall.
Meh
#7934 posted by
Shambler on 2005/06/08 06:02:05
Scrags do have eyes yes, because they are slightly different to other monsters, more imbued with Quake's magic and cunning, hence their ability to float, their reliance on targetted attacks rather than brute force (thus, eyes being beneficial) and ability to dodge (again, eyes being useful). I don't think they have a mouth though...
Chthon has no eyes, just a vertical lava-filled maw...
I suspect some of you haven't even played the damn game :P. Particularly those who need to give themselves a RL in E1M3/4 maps *rolls teeth*
I Guess..
#7935 posted by
JPL on 2005/06/08 06:35:39
.. Shambler is drunk... Hey ! Go and post these fu***ing eyes-related message on the Drunk Thread please...
Scrags
#7936 posted by
Zwiffle on 2005/06/08 08:27:05
Scrags have eyes because they were wizards turned into monsters.
Fiends have no eyes. That bit of flesh that looks like an eye? It's skin. If you look at the pic you see the horn loses its blood right where it connects to the "eye". Surely, warping of the texture won't ever occur on a Quake model, right? I mean, the teeth on the fiend don't stretch or anything...
So obviously, those of you who believe fiends have eyes are merely tricked into believing they have eyes by poor judgment. Don't worry, it's not your fault, you're all crackheads and the texture is fuzzy. Don't worry, we forgive you.
Bler, let's go have some curry.
BTW
#7937 posted by
Zwiffle on 2005/06/08 08:29:14
I'm a scrag. Something about a loogy or somesuch.
Omg
#7938 posted by
Kinn on 2005/06/08 08:33:00
"shamblers have fur" = old and busted.
"fiends don't have eyes" = new hotness.
Shut Up I Fucking Hate You All
#7939 posted by
czg on 2005/06/08 08:34:37
Czg
#7940 posted by
Zwiffle on 2005/06/08 08:41:44
I DID actually paint you. The bird was just a brief distraction! HONEST!!
Thank Goodness For That...
#7941 posted by
distrans on 2005/06/08 09:00:09
...for a moment there I thought CZG was going to stay on his rather annoying "I'm annoyed" kick... but the hate is back and all can rest easy.
Smabler may be pissed but the *rolls teeth* gag was a-plomb
Kinn: that comment (#7938), a social conscience and a job at Raven will make you scampie
Now for a moment of reason:
IF the fleshlike bits are eyes then they are surely useless as optical senors because THERE ARE HORNS GROWING OUT OF THEM. So,
If the fiends don't have eyes then they don't have eyes.
If the fiends do have eyes they don't have eyes.
Therefore, fiends don't have eyes.
So, how do they find their prey?
By smell of course, notice the highly evolved nasal receptors just above the mouth.
N.B. They are hard to identify because they are camouflaged by a thin epidermal layer that makes it look like they don't have a nose.
How Fiends Finds Their Prey!
#7942 posted by
Bazzu on 2005/06/08 10:23:24
What people always mistake for horns on the fiends are in fact organs that fiends senses their sorroundings with.
In prehistoric times fiends indeed had eyes but since they live in the dark elder world they lost their ability to see and developed the "horns" for their new sensory organs.
What is left of the eyes is just a flap of skin tat covers the eyesocket!
The proto fiend is still around in various maps. Ex. in some of necros maps you meet the proto fiend. They are at a stage in evolution where they not yet have developed the sensory organs. These proto fiends have indeed eyes!
Chtons Eyes
#7943 posted by
Ankh on 2005/06/08 10:45:15
I remember that in some early beta release Chton had big big eyes!!
Hmm
#7944 posted by
bambuz on 2005/06/08 10:51:00
I'm still undecided on this.
If Adrian or Kevin would show some concept art...