#7812 posted by JneeraZ on 2014/10/08 17:25:15
Sure, remove that word then. I don't want to nitpick every little thing here.
Basically, my point is that attacking/hurting the alien compromises the gameplay they were striving for. That's all.
Survival Horror
#7813 posted by ijed on 2014/10/08 17:39:23
#7814 posted by scar3crow on 2014/10/08 17:51:34
It isn't nitpicking, it is a primary element of the subject being discussed. The game has combat. It has weapons. It has killable entities that want to kill you.
And it has an unkillable entity that has a corporeal form in a lore that firmly establishes their mortality, and goes into detail as to the components of such therein.
If the game they wanted to make involves an unkillable central opponent, when everyone else can be killed, then they shouldn't have gone with the franchise where the primary nemesis is mortal.
It might compromise what they were striving for, but they chose the wrong scenario if that was their goal. Something ethereal, or dealing with hallucinations would be better suited to those goals. Not Alien.
I've Decided That I'm Never Going To Play
#7815 posted by RickyT33 on 2014/10/08 17:59:25
Alien Isolation again, purely because I heard that there isn't a fucking NASCAR TRACK IN THERE!!! WTF?!!!
And the guy from IGN gave it a 5.8 / 10 score, one of the reasons he cited was that 'the AI is too unpredictable'. What an idiot.
scar3crow: It most certainly is NOT a shooter. Sure you get a few guns, but you don't get much ammo, and the game really isn't about shooting stuff. It's about out-smarting aliens (and droids, and other humans) and surviving. So don't compare it to a shooter, just because it has a gun in it. If you could shoot the alien dead, the game would be over in a short period of time.
Go play Colonial Marines!
I'm Sorry
#7816 posted by RickyT33 on 2014/10/08 18:00:29
the last line was low man. No-one should ever have to play Colonial Marines. I know. I tried.
#7817 posted by scar3crow on 2014/10/08 18:04:08
I never said anything about it being a shooter. Just that if the game has corporeal enemies you can kill with weapons, who can kill you with weapons, and that if it takes place in a lore where a particular enemy is corporeal and killable, then that enemy should be corporeal and killable. I said nothing regarding the availability of such opportunities, the ease of it, the feasibility of it. Merely that it be a technical possibility. Or, you can make a game in a lore that matches your intended design.
#7818 posted by JneeraZ on 2014/10/08 18:05:57
Does it have enemies you can kill? The only thing I heard about was androids or something, and even then you were burning them ... with the same flamethrower you scare the alien with. I don't think this space station has pulse gun pickups in it or whatever.
#7819 posted by scar3crow on 2014/10/08 18:12:14
It's got humans who may try and kill you, with handguns, which you can kill with blunt objects from what I've seen. It also has crafting of items including making things with blasting caps. There are also active gas lines which do very large blasts of fire. I'm sure there are plenty of heavy machinery that operate on hydraulics which could be triggered. It is a very lethal environment, to anything.
#7820 posted by JneeraZ on 2014/10/08 18:22:51
"It's got humans who may try and kill you, with handguns, which you can kill with blunt objects from what I've seen."
Huh, I haven't seen that or read about it at all. If that's in there, it's weird you wouldn't ever get a gun...
It has worker droids who are creepy as shit and take a lot of pain before going down.
#7822 posted by skacky on 2014/10/08 19:19:21
Alien: Isolation is great. Just spent two hours hidden in a closet while shitting my pants.
SPOILER
#7823 posted by RickyT33 on 2014/10/08 19:43:17
(Yes you do get guns, there are 2 or 3 types I know of so far, and yes, you can shoot people and androids, and the Alien.....)
Seriously, It's Published
#7824 posted by RickyT33 on 2014/10/08 19:44:53
'the AI is too unpredictable'
WHAT
AN
IDIOT!
Skacky
#7825 posted by ijed on 2014/10/08 20:28:54
In game?
Ijed
#7826 posted by skacky on 2014/10/08 22:48:10
Yes. I was going back and forth back and forth because the Alien was always on my path and I'm too much of a wuss. :p
The Game
#7827 posted by ijed on 2014/10/09 01:22:50
Looks great, just watched Daz' Stream from the corner of my eye while doing other stuff.
It's like if the Doom3 artists got involved with a design team.
#7828 posted by necros on 2014/10/09 02:46:46
i... kind of want to play that now.... O_O
Its Fantastic
#7829 posted by mfx on 2014/10/09 02:58:10
Alien : Isolation
#7830 posted by DaZ on 2014/10/09 10:28:23
About 15 hours in to this on my stream. Holy fuck balls it's great!
Seriously one of the most graphically impressive games I have ever seen on any platform. Everything is so richly detailed and the smoke / steam / fire / gas effects are in another league from anything else I've seen.
Gameplay wise it is just as polished. The game varies things up enough to stay interesting (playing the same hide and seek gameplay with the Alien for 20 hours would get very dull) and while there is always an underlying dread permeating the entire game the actual horror is very well paced out. The Alien itself is truly terrifying. Even when it's not in your field of vision you can HEAR it moving around in the air ducts above you at almost all times.
When it does appear in your view it is instant pant shitting time. Special mention has to go to it's tail physics. The tail is dragged along behind the Alien with full physics so it will knock things over, be pulled over objects and around corners. it's fucking great.
Ok I'm gushing now :P Seriously I'm loving it. The only issue I've had with it so far is that some objectives are not as clearly marked on the automap as I would like which led to some confusion at times as to what I should be doing.
+1
#7831 posted by RickyT33 on 2014/10/09 13:05:04
I only started using the map at around about mission 4. Before that I navigated by exploration/memory.
*gets nervous, dives into nearest locker...*
Spec Ops The Line
#7832 posted by necros on 2014/10/13 01:03:02
this is not a fun game, but it is a good game. worth getting if you're looking for something more from a shooter.
Hatred
#7833 posted by Killes on 2014/10/17 06:11:42
http://www.bluesnews.com/s/155836/hatred-announced
Could not wipe the stupid evil grin off my face during that trailer. A true return to Postal 1 form!
The CEO Of The Studio Is Apparently A Neo Nazi.
#7834 posted by czg on 2014/10/17 08:26:16
#7835 posted by Killes on 2014/10/17 08:41:13
Meh, that sucks. Idiots everywhere.
Still looking forward to the game.
That Game Looks Disgusting.
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